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Triumphant Renovationism – the ironic hypocrisy of the ‘c’atholic left
Submitted by LocutusOP on Sun, 05/05/2019 - 23:33
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Sunday, May 5, 2019 - 23:00
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veritas vincit says:
Rod Dreher does write some good things, but he did indeed leave the Catholic Church for Eastern Orthodoxy — a grouping of churches that (according to something I once read) abandoned the living Magisterium for a static “tradition” — the opposite error that the Catholic Church often has made, in abandoning tradition recklessly.
The temptation to leave Holy Mother Church because of her imperfections, even gross defects, is a temptation of every age, from the Great Schism of 1054 where East and West split, to the Protestant “Reformation,” to movements today, both overly “traditional” (like sede-vacantists) to Modernists.
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Anita Moore, O.P.(lay) says:
Decades ago, my late grandfather left the Catholic Church for the LDS church. Some years ago, when I was visiting him, I took him to Mass with me. After Mass, he said he was glad to see that Catholics had abandoned their belief in the Real Presence. I asked him what made him think we no longer believe in the Real Presence. His answer: because lay people are now allowed to touch the Sacred Species with their hands and drink from the chalice.
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HvonBlumenthal says:
I am surprised that this Russian was disappointed by his visit to the West after going to the Catholic Church in Moscow. I lived in Moscow for several years and I know the Catholic Church there quite well. It is ultra-happy-clappy, very much at the hippy end of the Vatican 2 spectrum.
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adriennep says:
Rod Dreher is annoying beyond belief, and no one should have to endure the self-righteousness of his book. Cafeteria line Catholic lottery at its worst. In the meantime, local parish is losing the very people who might have helped build it up.
Own comment:
I have often mentioned to Novus Ordites the extreme scandal that NOChurch 'worship' causes to non-Catholics. Some have responded that it is not their problem.
Well, the alleged testimony of an alleged convert from then apostate to Russian Orthodoxy ought to frighten anyone who thinks that by acting as pagans in church people will be brought to the Faith - that is, assuming they even care about bringing people to a Faith they themselves do not seem to know or accept.
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For at least the last half-century, if not much longer, the so-called liberals embrace the myriad cultures of the world, as long as it’s not their own.
A European or American embracing eastern mysticism, Islam, sufism, or various other traditions? Excellent – as long as it’s not cultural appropriate, which is defined by…whenever someone on Twitter gets offended?
But a Catholic who embraces traditional architecture, liturgy, doctrine, morality, and spirituality? That’s triumphalist at best, and x-phobic/ist (just list them all off) at worst!