Certainly, it is difficult to make the demands of the Gospel understandable to secularized people. But this pastoral difficulty must not lead to compromises with the truth.
On Those Weirdo Trad Parishes
Submitted by LocutusOP on Thu, 01/25/2018 - 23:03
Author:
Tg, Magdalene P, Baseballmom, JohnDan, Margaret Costello, Deborah Cole
Date:
Thursday, January 25, 2018 - 23:00
Article link:
- 2. Magdalene P - January 17, 2018
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Countless faithful stopped going to Mass because they had broken hearts and the ‘rug was pulled out from under them’. New Mass, all things up for question, changes in feast days, ridicule for those adhering to the faith and ‘rigid’ in regards to the changes. Then the truths stopped being taught for the most part and the guitar Masses and pizza parties did not hold the heart and so folks dropped off because all ‘religions’ are the same anyway. On and on.
3. Baseballmom - January 18, 2018 That little video helped me understand a bit better what my parents went through. I was 12 when all the changes arrived, and simply was not all that aware of what was happening. My dad was a man of strong Faith and was going to attend Mass no matter what the situation. I think my mother was much more devastated by all that was happening, in the Church and in the Catholic schools we were attending. It just dawned on me, it was right at that time that she started consuming too many martinis…
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5. JohnDan - January 19, 2018
My grandmother, in her 70’s at the time, stopped going. countless others who grew up with a liturgy that is God centered and centuries old. The church never closed Vatican I and for some unknown reason decided that modernism needed to be institutionalized, even though we were warned in the twilight of the 19th centurey, and in to the 20th century. At that point vocations as well a church attendance diminished and continues as we fulfill every worldy whim as in the days of old. Nothing new under the sun and The Son.
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7. Margaret Costello - January 20, 2018
Yes, the interviewer made some very wise insights. He was spot on when he analogized trads and the concept of the walking dead. We are literally surrounded by spiritually dead people, many of whom want to kill us. I know I am surrounded by them and thus I am constantly having to be vigilant in detachment, not trusting them, protecting myself and identifying/combating the danger. And then there is our own supposed shepherds and leaders who are trying to kill us even more. Very apt analogy. Well done. God bless~
8. Deborah Cole - January 21, 2018
Very cogent analysis. When I converted, I did so in a Latin Mass context and never knew the N.O. personally although I was familiar with the religious wars background. As I became aware of those characteristics that Mr. C. talked about, I used to compare it to the deformations that happened to ghetto Jews — appropriate, since I am a Jewish convert — realizing that ghettoized people develop peculiarities and tics. It is true the stereotype of the trad is often true, but I never put it into a “charity” vs. “truth” paradigm by explicit explanation. Very helpful.
Own comment:
I have certainly not encountered these weird trads who people keep talking about - although I readily admit that according to many I might be considered one such person.
One of the participants in the video makes a zombie analogy: That traditinal Catholics have learned to be vigilant just like those in zombine movies are cautious about everyone they see because they never know who is after them. The response to that by Margaret Costello was apt:
Yes, the interviewer made some very wise insights. He was spot on when he analogized trads and the concept of the walking dead. We are literally surrounded by spiritually dead people, many of whom want to kill us. I know I am surrounded by them and thus I am constantly having to be vigilant in detachment, not trusting them, protecting myself and identifying/combating the danger. And then there is our own supposed shepherds and leaders who are trying to kill us even more. Very apt analogy. Well done. God bless~
We have many enemies, and many of those who would be our natural allies seem often to be the most hostile to a true restoration of Catholicism.
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Not everyone obeyed. My parents quit going to Mass regularly when the Latin Mass ended. They made us kids go but they wouldn’t go regularly. I know my Dad could not stand the laity giving Communion or on the altar. I can’t say it affected me because I was a kid.