Syrian 'Rebels' Feel Left Behind - Burn 'Traitor' Erdogan's Picture

Submitted by LocutusOP on Wed, 09/04/2019 - 00:26
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Canthama, james, Lurk, timbers, psychohistorian , NOBTS,AshenLight,  FSD, ben, Red Ryder,Walter,  Jen, Sasha, bevin,   Don Bacon  , Grieved          

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Wednesday, September 4, 2019 - 23:30
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Syrian 'Rebels' Feel Left Behind - Burn 'Traitor' Erdogan's Picture

 

Historically, this is the typical treatment for traitors and mercenaries, when the "wind change" they are left behind. The so called Syrian rebels, which there is nothing from rebels, only foreign & local terrorists and traitors, deserve nothing else but to be homeless in the countries that supported them, there is simply no room in Syria for Muslin Brotherhood terrorists and traitors.
These filthy must know there will be no paradise for them on earth, not in Syria and not within the turkish regime that backed their many crimes.
Should they flee the SAA then let the turkish regime be bitten back by the very same poisonous snake they helped to create. No sympathy for any side here, terrorists or terrorists' supporters, may they all find a warm place in hell.

 

Posted by: Canthama | Aug 30 2019 17:26 utc | 1

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thanks b, for this update... it helps with all the horror to offer a funny one liner - " Syria will regain Idleb and Erdogan got an ice cream." i do wonder what happens east of the euphrates after idlib is dealt with... of that erdogan also has an interest in seeing the kurds in no power of power too...

Posted by: james | Aug 30 2019 17:28 utc | 2

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Putin weaponizing ice cream.

Ice cream haram!!

 

Posted by: Lurk | Aug 30 2019 17:38 utc | 4

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Yet another war started by Obama, and lost by Trump.

"Mr President Trump, why does America only lose wars in your Presidency? What is the difference between your policy towards other nations and war making, vs Hillary's or Obama's policies?"

None, of course. Just the nations, faces, and timing change that's all.

Posted by: timbers | Aug 30 2019 17:42 utc | 7

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Thanks for the update on Syria b

What I don't understand is how the supposed "safe zone" fits into this picture?

Another question I have is when/if Syria will reclaim its oil fields in the region?

Progress is slow for a war that has been "over" for a year or so.

Driving the US actual and proxy forces out of Syria still seems a long way off.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 30 2019 17:57 utc | 8

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Hard to imagine the most valuable Al-cia-duh assets just being abandoned. Does b have any info on how many have been seeping out in the past year? Surely they must be safely in "further training" or forward deployed by now.

Posted by: NOBTS | Aug 30 2019 17:58 utc | 9

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> Another question I have is when/if Syria will reclaim its oil fields in the region?

Presumably they will liberate Idlib first before looking to turn up the heat east of the Euphrates, but you have to think that's next. The Golan, who knows...

Posted by: AshenLight | Aug 30 2019 17:59 utc | 10

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> Another question I have is when/if Syria will reclaim its oil fields in the region?

Presumably they will liberate Idlib first before looking to turn up the heat east of the Euphrates, but you have to think that's next. The Golan, who knows...

Posted by: AshenLight | Aug 30 2019 17:59 utc | 10

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Turkey's geopolitical position as the threshold to everything and everywhere can play safe harbor to a maximally duplictous figure as Erdogan. But only for a period of time. At some point everybody sees the front and back of you one too many times. The whirling dervish overstays his revolutions. It's a testament to Putin's remarkable skills that he seems to have mastered the rhythm that is Erdogan and rides the roller coaster as well as is possible. Whereas lesser statesmen succumb to exasperation. Obama succumbed so far as to facilitate an unsuccessful coup.

Posted by: FSD | Aug 30 2019 18:48 utc | 13

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I don't believe Syria will ever be the same state it was before the empire fomented the "civil war".

When the empire shows up, it, and their proxies never fully withdraw.

One can only hope the Syrian people gain some moderate peace and tranquility from all the evil foisted on them, by the evil empire and her minions.

 

Posted by: ben | Aug 30 2019 18:55 utc | 14

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According to a report in PressTV.com, the Syrians have unilaterally agreed to ceasefire in de-escalation zone:

"Syrian forces to cease fire in Idlib de-escalation zone from Saturday: Russia"

https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2019/08/30/604868/Syria-Idlib

Russia is giving Turkey and some of the civilians an opportunity to Reconcile, move or when the ceasefire ends, to die.

This is how they have operated the entire war. Stop and go warfare, but always on course to take the turf no matter what.
Erdogan failed over and over to clean up this de-escalation zone. Putin set him straight the other day in Moscow.

The facts on the ground are all pointing to Turkey's full withdrawal to a secure zone along the border.

Erdogan has bigger fish to fry.

One of the incentives Russia offered was Roscosmos will put a Turkish cosmonaut up in the ISI space station in 2023, the Turk centennial year. This, plus Su-35s and Su-57s and even technology transfers in co-production deals is worth so much more than the insane war in Syria. Russia will also assist with gas and oil exploration for Turkey (no other nations want Turkey to have that offshore Cyprus).

Then there is that Russian ice cream, the favorite of President Xi Jinping. Can't say no to Vlad when you get Russian ice cream.

Posted by: Red Ryder | Aug 30 2019 18:57 utc | 15

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When former allies and satraps start changing side there is generally a race to the door, to change sides...

First Erdo...

This is one reason imperial collapse is often very fast.

Similarly, when an empire is seen to be unable to win a war, eg looses several one after another (Korea, 'Name ddadadad Syria...and also is seen to avoid combat (Iran), well, people are liable to notice, eh?

A sad denouement...

 

Posted by: Walter | Aug 30 2019 21:09 utc | 33

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I'd have thought the solution as to what to do with most of the takfiris in Idlib province would be straightforward: Turkish President Erdogan tells them he's sending them all back to China where they'll all be sent to re-education camps. Everyone then sits back as the takfiris commit collective suicide to avoid this fate or turn on the mercenaries and foreign "advisors" among them.

This would save the SAA the expense of getting rid of the takfiris and at the same time relieve China of the expense of taking back Uyghur terrorists and their families whose loyalties are always going to be suspect.

 

Posted by: Jen | Aug 30 2019 21:10 utc | 34

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@Posted by: Canthama | Aug 30 2019 17:26 utc | 1

Well, let´s try to be fair here.

The "rebels" only trained in trainning camps created to this purpose in the borders of Turkey, but they arrived in Turkey by very porous borders of Jordania, Israel, and various Stans in Central Asia. Obviously, they will never be able to return to Central Asia, since Russia will take care of it.

IMO, they should be shuttled by US Marine Corps military helicopters ( more or less the same way they arrive in Afghanistan and other fronts... ) and be redistributed at share amongst the "Commonwealth of Internatinal Terrorism", with which several thousands should leave immediately for Riyad and occupy the luxury hotel where MBS tortured his own family ( they will find themselves in their sauce there...)some other thousands should end living with The Donald and Melania in Trump Tower during the winter and go all together to Mar-a-Lago once summer arrived, some other thousands should go invading the whole Virginia ( Alexandría and indoor and ourtdoor kitchens of the wealthy intelligence community included...they have good meat...brought especially from Italian Delicatessen...no need to go around beheading anymore....), besides they should go occupying CIA facilities and put themselves comfortable there ( it seems they have good coffee...).

Some other thousands should go to live with Bibi and Sara, and it occurs to me that some especially prone beheaders even could share Jair´s room...The rest, directly for HaKirya...plenty of room there...

The remaining thousands should definitely leave for post-Brexit UK, but not to stay in the streets to terrorize the already terrorized ( by the multiple false flags attacks by these terrorists themselves..) and suffered UK citizens, but should invade and plant their buttocks in Legoland, Buckingham Palace, Balmoral, and whatever the hell it is called Ducks of Sussex´s and Cambridge homes, without forgetting going as well invading Bojo´s and Rees-Mogg´s penthouses and summer dachas, and surely comfortable Farage´s cottage.....

Well this for starters, if you feel I am missing someone, feel free to add more hotels....for the "rebels"...

 

Posted by: Sasha | Aug 30 2019 21:13 utc | 35

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Russia's diplomatic victories continue to pile up. And each one And after that-Latin America. Russia's economy may be suffering, though it is still far better than it was in 2000, but the pain is short term. With Iran and Turkey on board the Eurasian project becomes almost unstoppable. Only India is left which is why the US and Israel are pulling out all the stops to show Modi how much they approve of his increasingly manic, and mystical, Hindu nationalism.
Any experts in the history of diplomacy care to correct the assessment that not since Cavour and Bismark have we seen the like of what Putin has achieved in the past three years?

"I don't believe Syria will ever be the same state it was before the empire fomented the "civil war"." You are right, there, Ben@13, Syria will now be the strongest power in Arabia.

Posted by: bevin | Aug 30 2019 21:50 utc | 36

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Not the least of Putin's achievements is the transformation of Turkey from an enemy, downing a Russian plane just four years ago, to an ice-cream eating (and subordinate) ally. Of course the US was a big help with its stupid "diplomats." None of this is being reported in the US press but other countries with more diverse news outlets are taking notice. It's pretty damned impressive.

 

Posted by: Don Bacon | Aug 30 2019 22:25 utc | 40

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#35 bevin

I agree with all your points - especially the high-velocity renaissance of Syria in the near future - but I'd quibble a little with "Russia's economy may be suffering..." because it begs the question: compared with what?

Compared with other economies throughout the world, Russia's appears to be practically the strongest. A great economic report from Jon Hellevig was published today at the Saker on this score:
New World Order in Meltdown, But Russia Stronger Than Ever

Moving on in continued agreement with you, regarding South America there was a great article recently about China's impact on that continent, at Strategic Culture, which is down at this moment, but presumably will come back up:
South American Shockwaves Bring the New Silk Road Into the Americas as Neo-Liberal Order Crumbles — Strategic Culture

One assumes that Russia will ride shotgun over this investment surge by China. Who was it said recently, quoting from a comment made elsewhere, that the S-400 is Russia's foreign policy? I thought that was a wonderful observation. Russia's diplomacy is diamond-quality of course, and I admire it completely. But it was Putin himself who quoted in an interview the old saying that a kind word and a Smith & Wesson will achieve much more than just a kind word alone.

Russian seems to have both, in full measure.

Posted by: Grieved | Aug 30 2019 23:56 utc | 41 

 

 

 

Own comment: 

The best comment on the piece has to go to FSD who writes:

Turkey's geopolitical position as the threshold to everything and everywhere can play safe harbor to a maximally duplictous figure as Erdogan. But only for a period of time. At some point everybody sees the front and back of you one too many times. The whirling dervish overstays his revolutions. It's a testament to Putin's remarkable skills that he seems to have mastered the rhythm that is Erdogan and rides the roller coaster as well as is possible. Whereas lesser statesmen succumb to exasperation. Obama succumbed so far as to facilitate an unsuccessful coup.

Indeed, one has to admire the patience of Putin who has to deal with political pygmies all over the place - particularly in the West - calling him names. All the time, he shrugs it off and after each round Russia is the better for it, and more often than not the West is worse off for it..

The theme of Putin's successes is echoed by others, not least Don Bacon who writes: 

Not the least of Putin's achievements is the transformation of Turkey from an enemy, downing a Russian plane just four years ago, to an ice-cream eating (and subordinate) ally. Of course the US was a big help with its stupid "diplomats." None of this is being reported in the US press but other countries with more diverse news outlets are taking notice. It's pretty damned impressive.

If Trump tweeted less and used his brain more, and put his country first instead of serving the cause of zionism, then it is possible he might be able to achive 1/5 of what Putin has done, and that alone would be most impressive. As it is, most of the West seems to be run by morons masquerading as idiots, and I do not see a good way out of this for the West, short of a miraculous intervention by God Almighty.

One last point, and a most important one: There seems to be this myth flying around that "Russia's economy is struggling". As Grieved asks , "compared with what"?

The Russian economy is certainly doing better than most Western countries and far better than the U.S. for sure. While it is not growing its GDP as highly as the U.S., if we are to go by official numbers anyway, Russia has virtually no debt and a budget surplus, and it is still growing faster than most of the Westeven using GDP metrics. It means that Russia is at the end of every year richer than it was at the beginning, whereas the U.S. and much of the West are objectively speaking pooer at the end of the year than at the beginning. Indeed, there is no country, I would argue, with better future prospects than Russia at this moment in time, I would vehemently argue.