Resisting Peter: Cardinal Bergoglio Knows Exactly How That Works

Submitted by LocutusOP on Tue, 05/01/2018 - 23:58
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Wednesday, May 2, 2018 - 00:00
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Resisting Peter: Cardinal Bergoglio Knows Exactly How That Works

 

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    MKDAWUSS • 22 days ago

    And if Pope Benedict XVI wasn't Mr. Nice Guy and didn't compromise, what would have happened? I get the feeling that Pope Benny would have received a worse fate and His Holiness's opponents would have carried on as they currently are.

    I do agree that we're worse off having Francis as Pope, but I don't know exactly what options Benedict had in terms of staving off what Francis (and friends) represent.

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      jdumon MKDAWUSS • 20 days ago

      If Benedict wasn't Mr Nice Guy and had refused to compromise, what would have happened?
      He would have been devoured by the wolves he feared.
      Murdered like John Paul I. The mafia doesn't compromise.

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    Cannonkat MKDAWUSS • 22 days ago

    He simply should have not resigned, and put some key demotions and promotions into position to carry on the work of 'reforming the reform.' Now the 'institution' of Holy Church is more polluted than ever, until it becomes, with the exodus of the good, the Whore of Babylon - the real name of the Great Apostasy.

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Barbara • 22 days ago

Very informative stuff. Poor Francis. I really do feel he is lost and because of his pride and gloomy ideology there will be no change in him - who knows what he will feel when he's at death's door. He seems so sour and unhappy. I can't remember when I have been able to take any joy in his words, or actions - but he doesn't seem joyful either.

Nothing happens that Our Loving Father in Heaven does not plan, or allow. He allows Francis to torment us with his perverted 'gospel' message, and mean, nasty, uncharitable talk…for our own good - the trial is good for us. The loss of souls will be laid at Francis feet at his judgement.

What else can we say when the darkness gets deeper and deeper with no glimmer of light? The Feast of the Annunciation was a terrible day for the new apostolic letter…more lack of charity, more twisted logic, more perversion of the truth. Our Lady of Fatima, have pity on us.

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BioFeed • 22 days ago

And just in the past day Francis said one can't be pro-life if one does not embrace immigrants. For Europeans that means Muslims who generally want to convert their new homeland rather than become a part of it. Being from South America this disdain for Europe and, dare I say, Western civilization by the Pope is not a surprise. He, IMO, has an enmity for the first world. To such a degree he refuses to see the mass Islamic immigration as a threat to Christian Europe. Too, his feeble support for Christians being persecuted for their faith in non-first world countries.
Benedict's abdication remains a mystery but his generally weak episcopal appointments - coupled with those of JP2 - guaranteed a Francis-like successor even if he had remained as Pope until his death. The Vatican and the apparatus that makes it up are controlled largely by bureaucrats who seem not to have an orthodox faith or a fear of judgment from God. Given the sexual and monetary scandals. Those scandals abound and nothing changes.
Back to Benedict - whatever the real reason for leaving the office, the Soros/one world globalists played a part. IMO. A prominent talk show host started off today by criticizing Francis's rant on immigrants and called him a plant. A "fake" Pope put their by the same cabal that put Obama in office and is trying to destroy Western culture..

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    John Ingram • 22 days ago

    "Another
    thing we should see from this story is that Bergoglio's rise began with
    his opposing a scholarly Pope who was quoting a Byzantine Emperor..." Well, not quite. Bergoglio received 40 votes on the third ballot in the 2005 Conclave (though only 26 votes on the final ballot): https://en.wikipedia.org/wi...

    That said though, this article is a good demonstration of Bergoglio's perfidy and hypocrisy. As for Benedict being "nice," when one looks up his role in his 2007 betrayal of the Chinese underground faithful, one might disagree: http://www.traditioninactio...

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      slyphnoyde John Ingram • 21 days ago

      Interesting article you provide a link to. Thanks for the reference. In some ways, the situation of the Catholic church in China reminds me of the situation of the Orthodox church in Russia after the Bolshevik revolution. There was a somewhat official church, the so-called "Living Church," after the Declaration of Metropolitan Sergius, and what came to be called the catacomb church which continued underground.

      God knows best, of course, I certainly don't, but I can foresee a time when all faithful Christians may be forced underground almost everywhere. Modernists such as Bergoglio are not helping the situation any.

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    kiwiinamerica • 21 days ago

    I've said this repeatedly and will continue to do so; the real issue is not Bergoglio. There have always been heretics and dissenters among the hierarchy but in saner times, they were rebuked, disciplined and weeded out. Not in this age, though. No, the real issue here is how Bergoglio was enabled and rose through the ranks of the hierarchy to the very summit. Future students of Church history will closely scrutinize the reasons why this disgraceful heretic was firstly consecrated a bishop, then given the red hat of a cardinal and finally elected Pope.

    My own 0.02 is that the rot within the Church was systemic and widespread; so widespread and deeply rooted that the Church had essentially ceased to function as an apostolic body and was incapable of defending itself against the multitude of faithless rogues who occupied episcopal office. The rise of Bergoglio is a testament to the Church's sickness. He is the visible, tangible fruit of decades and decades of disobedience, faithlessness and homosexual corruption. A chastisement for the filth-covered, disfigured bride of Christ.

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Laura Y. • 21 days ago

I recall watching a program about Pope Benedict some years ago. It highlighted his deep desire to live quietly and not ascend to the heights of Church leadership. Very early on in his papacy, he asked for our prayers for he felt himself to be a sheep among wolves. It was quite inspiring to me when he spoke out in a clear and erudite way about Islam. I remember Bergoglio's challenge and was disappointed that Benedict took no action, but not surprised. I wonder if Benedict's shyness is to account for his failure to correct Bergoglio, the latter being, by many accounts, blustery and angry. Could it be, as silly as it may sound, that Benedict has allowed himself to be "bullied?" Yet, God can and will use our weakness, His power is made perfect in such, yet perhaps Benedict had reached his breaking point. St. Paul tells us that God will allow us to be tempted, but will also provide a way out. Maybe this was the case with Benedict. I don't know. Noone knows, except Benedict and God Himself. His will use our present dire situation to "clean house" and the Church will grow smaller yet fervent and faithful, as Benedict predicted back in his days of being a Cardinal.

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    Shawn Albert • 21 days ago

    I wonder if Benedict XVI hadn't given us Summorum Pontificum if anyone would even care about him anymore?

    Look over the list of Cardinals he appointed, and then tell me how this life-long Vatican II liberal wasn't part of the part of the problem.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/...

    And if that isn't enough, here is the list of those appointed by John Paul II:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/...

    Benedict was not a friend to Trads, no matter how many people want to believe otherwise. Bergoglio is nothing more or less than the inevitable and planned outcome of the Vatican II revolution. What is so hard about understanding that?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Indeed, Bergoglio is not the real issue, but simply a very visible symptom of a much deadlier disease. This is the essense of  kiwiinamerica's comment, echoing sentiment I have long held and expressed:

I've said this repeatedly and will continue to do so; the real issue is not Bergoglio. There have always been heretics and dissenters among the hierarchy but in saner times, they were rebuked, disciplined and weeded out. Not in this age, though. No, the real issue here is how Bergoglio was enabled and rose through the ranks of the hierarchy to the very summit. Future students of Church history will closely scrutinize the reasons why this disgraceful heretic was firstly consecrated a bishop, then given the red hat of a cardinal and finally elected Pope.

My own 0.02 is that the rot within the Church was systemic and widespread; so widespread and deeply rooted that the Church had essentially ceased to function as an apostolic body and was incapable of defending itself against the multitude of faithless rogues who occupied episcopal office. The rise of Bergoglio is a testament to the Church's sickness. He is the visible, tangible fruit of decades and decades of disobedience, faithlessness and homosexual corruption. A chastisement for the filth-covered, disfigured bride of Christ.

 

If we do not trace how exactly a heretic like Bergoglio managed to get ordained then promoted all the way to the papacy, and make sure it never happens again, then we shall not be able to claw ourseves out of the NOChurch graveyard. If we don't then we probably don't deserve to either.