RARE VIDEO: Fr. Gruner on Francis as anti-pope

1. Rushintuit August 8, 2017

   Thank you for posting this! Regarding the Vision, Lucy wrote, he (The Bishop dressed in white) as “something similar to how people appear in a mirror when they pass in front of it”. I hope that means Francis’ “reign” will be brief.

    

• Ron G August 8, 2017

  It’s funny but I must have heard this 100 times before, but until now it has dawned on me that when one looks into a mirror they see themselves as they see themselves, but if we where to look into that same mirror viewing the pope looking at himself, he would appear in a “horizontal” mirror image of himself. So it’s possible that the phrase Sr. Lucia is alluding to is some sort of flipped perception of what appears to be accepted as true.

   
• Christina64 August 9, 2017

  I have wondered about that “bishop in white” expression. Perhaps Bergoglio is meant, but he is not being called the Pope, merely a bishop, because he isn’t the pope. Looking for other opinions on this thought.

   
• AClay August 9, 2017

  Christina64, I recall reading an article a little while ago (I’m sorry I can’t remember where though) which stated how Francis has rejected the monarchy of the pope’s office and refers to himself as ‘the Bishop of Rome’ rather than ‘Pope’. If I recall correctly, I believe he even travels on his Argentinian passport. Not definitive but interesting in this context.

   
• Satis die malu est August 10, 2017

  Thank you AClay. Not only interesting but I’d say also very relevant.

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1. John314 August 9, 2017

   Long live the Pope! Long live Pope Benedict!

    

• Tom A August 9, 2017

  Will Francis become Pope if Benedict dies? It’s a good question, how will resignationists answer this conundrum?

   
• John314 August 10, 2017

  We will be “sede vacante” until the next Pope is elected. How sad, because there will nothing to argue about for a few months.

   
• Servant of Our Lady August 10, 2017

  
  So funny!

   
• Satis die malu est August 10, 2017

  As far as I am aware, we are never without a Pope. If there is no valid earthly Pope, for whatever reason, St Peter takes over until a legitimate Pope is elected. Hence Jesus’ words ‘I will never leave you orphans.’ or words to that effect. Looking at the dire warnings in the prophecies the remnant Church may need to remember that. God bless all here.

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1. Amateur Brain Surgeon August 11, 2017

   Fr. Gruener, suspended a divinis, and which suspension was upheld by the Apostolic Signatura, seems a very troubled and confused priest but we are supposed to consider his judgment worthy?

   http://callmejorgebergoglio.blogspot.com/2017/08/fr-gruner-goes-to-bayside-new-york.html#comment-form

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• Tom A August 11, 2017

  You forgot to add “by modernists.” He was suspended by modernists and it was upheld by modernists. What is confusing is calling modernists Catholic. That’s what has me comfused as to why so called Catholics would call modernists (who are not Catholic) Catholic. So ABS, without going off into a diversionary rant, can you explain how a modernist is a Catholic?

   
• Tom A August 11, 2017

  If he does answer, it will have all sorts of polemics about “authority” and “judgment” and “visibility” and other accusation against sedes. But will not answer the actual question.

   
• Tom A August 11, 2017

  Also, for the record, I am not a Fatimista and do not support Gruener. He was ordained in 1976, does anyone know if it was in the new rite or the old rite?

   
• John314 August 11, 2017

  Well, Tom A, the “modernists” do not believe in Fatima and they do not like Fr. Gruner so here you have some points in common for dialog.

   
• Tom A August 11, 2017

  I do believe in the Fatima apparition and it appears Pius XI and XII failed to heed the request. So therefore we had WWII and the Soviet Union spreading evil and socialism. Its all a moot point now since there is no Pope. We are in a new phase of the end times. The modernists have totally corrupted the meaning of Fatima while the semi-trads have put all their hopes of restoring the Church if Russia gets consecrated. The ship sailed, 1960 passed. Its time to move on. There is no Catholic Pope to consecrate my backyard let alone Russia.