Evil too, will always be part of the mystery of the Church. And when we see what men, what the clergy have done in the Church, then that is nothing short of proof that he [Christ] founded and upholds the Church. If she were dependent on men, she would long since have perished.
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CatMuse
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JTLiuzza
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He gives the Blessed Sacrament to unrepentant adulterers. If he can do that, this atrocity is easy.
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mattsixteen24
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JTLiuzza
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The vile masons are squealing with delight.
As Ann Barnhardt has correctly put forth, they're out to destroy the Papacy. And Benedict is an accomplice, whether willingly or out of ignorance or cowardice.
Ludovic Denim
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foward
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mystic
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At a ceremony June 30 to receive the relics and venerate them, Patriarch Bartholomew said, “Pope Francis made this grand, fraternal and historic gesture” of giving the Orthodox fragments of the relics of St. Peter.
Note that Francis handed the relics to a delegate and not the the patriarch himself..
I do not clearly understand and this needs clarification.
Patriarch says: Orthodox fragments? What is meant with orthodox fragments?
Is he saying that the fragments were always Orthodox, because in his view Peter was and has always been Orthodox, and this way the church was and always has been Orthodox and in this way the wordings of the patriarch evidences that he regards Catholicism as the illegitimate schism? As they always have been doing?
If the patriarch says 'orthodox fragments' he might be saying that what Fnarcis is doing is not a gesture of friendship plea but a righteous historical act of giving back what does not belong to the catholic church to the righteous owner.
I do not think that the patriarch is saying that the fragments were Catholic and now are Orthodox then.
Maybe these words were an insult.
The Patriarch owes me some explanations, unless he never said 'orthodox fragments' of course.
Then the news owes me an explanation for being sloppy.
So far the fruits of "promoting christian unity" with "precious gifts" are:
"Orthodox Relics"
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St Michael the Archangel defend us in battle
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It’s a win-win. The Orthodox think they are getting the real deal (in order to further ecumenical dialogue ) and we keep the real real deal hidden somewhere in the basement.
I owe Gloria.tv an apology for doubting the authenticity of this story since I first picked up on it from their website. The very next day it became apparent that there was no misunderstanding whatsoever and that Bergoglio had indeed given away what was in no way his to dispose of to the Orthodox.
I agree with one of the commenters that we should try and give away Bergoglio to the Orthodox. That way, he and the patriarch of Constantinople could spend all their time talking about saving the environment and none about how to save souls, except nobody would bother with their musings.
Alas, I think the Orthodox in Instanbul have enough trash as it is so I doubt Bergoglio will have any takers.