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Sputnik has a interview with Kit Klarenberg about these leaked files: UK Foreign Office Docs Reveal 'Full-Spectrum' Psyops to 'Destabilise Russia', Journalist Says
My guess is, there will be no discussion about this files in the western msm.
Posted by: Fran | Feb 24 2021 15:25 utc | 1
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Question: how difficult could it be to create alternative 'social networks', that are not liberal-fascist?
...or would any attempt be sabotaged by liberal-fascist infrastructure companies (Amazon, MS, etc)? If so, are there any non-liberal-fascist infrastructure companies in this world, that can stay non-liberal-fascist for an extended period of time?
Posted by: Mao Cheng Ji | Feb 24 2021 16:01 utc | 3
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I will believe they are acting in good faith when they expose similar networks tied to Israel and Turkey.
Posted by: catb | Feb 24 2021 16:30 utc | 5
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Sadly, Mao Cheng, there are none in the west.
Posted by: Red Top | Feb 24 2021 16:49 utc | 6
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So, only the official party narrative is allowed in the news.
Only government approved documents can be discussed and only documents explicitly declassified can be seen.
Therefore, the only government malfeasance the media can cover is malfeasance officially admitted and any other non-governmental approved narrative is censored.
In that case, there is nothing to discuss as the US government never admits malfeasance or any wrongdoing at all.
Strangely, a large fraction of US citizens will be perfectly fine with this since it protects everyone from "fake news" and "Russian meddling".
Any country that allows this behavior deserves the dictatorship they live under.
Posted by: Mar man | Feb 24 2021 16:53 utc | 7
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Anyone I know who even takes note of such events is totally in support. It shows, to them, that Biden is crushing Trump/Putin. Cause for celebration. All praise to the algorithms that ferret out the evildoers.
When fascism came to Germany the populace wanted it. Or enough of them did. Same is happening here. No surprise.
Posted by: oldhippie | Feb 24 2021 16:55 utc | 8
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Question: how difficult could it be to create alternative 'social networks', that are not liberal-fascist?
Posted by: Mao Cheng Ji | Feb 24 2021 16:01 utc | 3
Very difficult, see https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/you-cant-just-build-your-own-twitter/
Posted by: Saraj | Feb 24 2021 17:08 utc | 9
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hanks b
kind of a shame about twitter and facebook, but it was bound to happen... for propaganda to work, it has to be pretty thorough... apparently the intel agencies believe control of twitter and facebook are an important part of this... controlling the msm in itself, is not enough..
Posted by: james | Feb 24 2021 17:08 utc | 10
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On the Week in Review thread last night I posted two links to ZH showing that, at least, the Navalny BS is such
It seems Amnesty International have revoked Navalny's Prisoner of Conscience status after discovering he maybe isn't such a nice guy was one link and the other was about coming sanctions against Russia because of poor ol Navalny
I see the narrative unraveling in empire because of the intertubes that were not around in Hitler's era and so total brainwashing is harder because not all the sources of information are controlled.
Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 24 2021 17:27 utc | 12
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Fascism by any other name... But isn't this just the beginning of public/private partnership for, of and by profiteers. Profiteers who desperately need existential enemies and fretting populaces to perpetuate the myth of a 'dangerous world.'
As with Snowden's revelations, we know what the policy is, and the crimes committed against 'democracy' but it's still good to get 'official' confirmation.
Posted by: gottlieb | Feb 24 2021 17:37 utc | 14
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@Saraj 9, "Very difficult, see https..."
It seems to me, they make it sound more difficult than it really is.
Think of thepiratebay. It gets banned, blocked, raided, sued - from 2006 at least - and yet it lives. It changes from .org to .whatever, it finds registrars and infrastructure somehow.
And you don't really need google/apple store all that much: a browser will suffice.
And search? paypal, bank - what is this all about? I'm sure thepiratebay works with advertisers somehow (definitely with VPN companies), and somehow it gets paid. And that's all there is to it. Imo.
Posted by: Mao Cheng Ji | Feb 24 2021 18:14 utc | 17
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Dear steven, when fascists call themselves 'liberal', it makes sense (to me) to identify them as 'liberal-fascist'.
And that's all there is to it.
You are free to classify and identify them any way you like. May I suggest, as an alternative, 'woke-fascist'?
Posted by: Mao Cheng Ji | Feb 24 2021 18:23 utc | 18
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The interesting aspect of the Twitter ban on Trump is that it tends to reinforce the theory that POTUS is just a Token Figurehead with Zero Power. It was an extraordinarily myopic act for The Swamp to approve.
Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Feb 24 2021 19:31 utc | 25
It has long been the notion of many - most notably Lionel of Lionel Media - that these social media giants were creations of intelligence agencies, or at the very least the deep state.
The censorship that they have carried out on behalf of the deep state does nothing to dispel this notion. In practice, it matters little whether they are creations of the deep state or not, when it is obvious to everyone that they serve at the behest of it.