Brazil's Bishops Open Sacraments to Adulterers

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Friday, August 25, 2017 - 00:00
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    "They would rather have Church-approved divorce."

    Isn't that what Annulments are or have become? (And I realize I'm probably showing my ignorance when it comes Annulments in the Catholic Church)

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      Anecdote only: a very, very wealthy friend in Illinois is trying for an annulment and the priests and bishops are having none of it. Told him sorry.

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    A declaration of nullity declares that the marriage never existed due to a prior defect (e.g. the groom is too drunk from his bachelor party the night before but the prospective bride and groom go through with it anyway). A divorce is a secular decree that civilly declares that the marriage of two baptized persons ratum et consummatum is null and void (e.g. the case of Henry VIII).

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      That is what a true annulment is. But is has become rather a scandal that (at least in the US) virtually EVERYONE who applies for an annulment gets it. You'd think SOME marriages would have been valid.

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      When I lived in Michigan (1998-2000), my parish priest gave the game away. He said that he advised unhappy couples on how to complete the application forms for annulments. He had never known of such an application being refused. Admittedly, the USA had more annulments than any other country and Detroit had more annulments than any other US diocese. Plainly the old idea that the marriage bond was automatically presumed valid did not apply.

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  • With this step, it makes it all the more easier to have Eucharist-sharing parties with Anglicans and Lutherans who love divorce. Or the Orthodox who permit it a certain number of times before it gets too ridiculous...

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      Correct.

      Jorge Bergoglio wants a 1 World Church to go with that 1 World Government he dreams of. And he knows that the only way to get that 1 World Church is to have the Catholic Church back away from opposing divorce/remarriage and gay unions and female ordination. Jorge Bergoglio is arranging things so that the Catholic Church will tolerate all the parts of the sexual revolution that the Anglicans and Lutherans have embraced.

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I am divorced but I never remarried, so I am able to partake of the sacrament. But if I ever wanted to remarry, I would leave the Catholic Church and become an Evangelical before I would ask for an annulment of my previous marriage. No Church has the right to annul a marriage that has been consecrated by God. The Church can forgive a divorce but not annul a marriage.

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All three of my sisters are divorced and remarried and two of them claim they didn't know Christ when they married, so I guess they think their marriages are accepted by God because they weren't Christians before even though they were baptized and raised in the Catholic Church. One sister's first husband exclaimed to her that he never really loved her and he broke her heart. Another sister says she knew right after she married her first husband that she made a mistake but didn't say anything because our father approved of him. She later divorced him because she got sick of him, even though they had children and he never abused her or anything like that. My third sister was pregnant but didn't love her first husband and felt pressured to marry him. Within five years she left him. I've told all of them that they have committed adultery, but they think God forgave them and he accepts their marriages. I get unsure and confused because I have kept the faith all these long years and our relationships were strained because I never went to their second marriages. All I can do is continue to pray for them to repent. It seems like they haven't really done anything that bad. Two of them otherwise live good, christian lives, but when it comes to the sixth commandment, anything goes. Also, they are protestant, thinking that is better than the Catholic Church.

 

 

 

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Of all the scandals in NOChurch, the annulment scam has to be the greatest one. You will never be able to convince me that out of the millions in the world there are but a handful of people whose marriages are invalid, because even young children when they play-act know that marriage is for life.

I am not sure if is Catholic but her ignorance on this point (I take the liberty to assume it is a woman writing such drivel given the tone) is breathtaking:

 

I am divorced but I never remarried, so I am able to partake of the sacrament. But if I ever wanted to remarry, I would leave the Catholic Church and become an Evangelical before I would ask for an annulment of my previous marriage. No Church has the right to annul a marriage that has been consecrated by God. The Church can forgive a divorce but not annul a marriage.

The Church does not annul a marriage, and I don't know how many times one can say that very simple statement! A declaration of annulment is simply a decree that a valid marriage has never existed, a point which I accept in principle, if not quite so in practice. It is possible for a non-valid marriage to take place, if the couple either as individuals or in concert exhibit any of the limited number of requisite deficiencies. The Church has always held this to be quite rare, but NOChurch thinks it more the rule than the exception.

Another commenter, gives us the sad moral state of former Christendom:

All three of my sisters are divorced and remarried and two of them claim they didn't know Christ when they married, so I guess they think their marriages are accepted by God because they weren't Christians before even though they were baptized and raised in the Catholic Church. One sister's first husband exclaimed to her that he never really loved her and he broke her heart. Another sister says she knew right after she married her first husband that she made a mistake but didn't say anything because our father approved of him. She later divorced him because she got sick of him, even though they had children and he never abused her or anything like that. My third sister was pregnant but didn't love her first husband and felt pressured to marry him. Within five years she left him. I've told all of them that they have committed adultery, but they think God forgave them and he accepts their marriages. I get unsure and confused because I have kept the faith all these long years and our relationships were strained because I never went to their second marriages. All I can do is continue to pray for them to repent. It seems like they haven't really done anything that bad. Two of them otherwise live good, christian lives, but when it comes to the sixth commandment, anything goes. Also, they are protestant, thinking that is better than the Catholic Church.

At least they are protestants so they are likely to regard the Catholic Church as not allowing divorce - which of course it doesn't. Given their gleefull violation of the 6th Commandment, it is regretfully better that they do not associate themselves with the Catholic Church, as we have enough trouble with heretics as it is.

The Remnant's Comment gets right to the heart of the Novus Ordo apostasy:

What more do people need to see? Francis destroyed Catholic marriage and nobody cares. They would rather have Church-approved divorce. And the "faithful" sit there and let their marriages get undermined by the man who claims the keys.