U.S. Breaks Its Just Signed Agreement With The Taliban

Submitted by LocutusOP on Sun, 03/08/2020 - 23:22
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SteveK9 , Hoarsewhisperer,  Robert,  Russ, Jackrabbit , GeorgeV,  Ghost Ship          

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Sunday, March 8, 2020 - 23:15
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U.S. Breaks Its Just Signed Agreement With The Taliban

There is one way to leave Afghanistan ... leave. The Deep State would shriek, the MSM, the Lindsay Graham’s, but the American people would be happy. Trump would be attacked as a defeatist by all the same actors from Russia-gate, and he would be afraid to lose the election, but if he could just talk straight as he did at one time and say that he is sick of this shit and we are leaving. Sadly, it wont’ happen.

 

Posted by: SteveK9 | Mar 4 2020 19:14 utc | 1

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U.S. Breaks Its Just Signed Agreement With The Taliban

Guess how surprised EVERYBODY wasn't?

 

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Mar 4 2020 19:35 utc | 4

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What else does one expect from a crime organization?

 

Posted by: Robert | Mar 4 2020 19:46 utc | 5

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This kind of thing is part of why the neoliberal establishment hates Trump even though there's zero substantive disagreement between them. They want to put on the best solemn act they can where it comes to treaties even though they regard the treaties with just as much contempt as Trump does, whereas Trump seems to delight in openly expressing that contempt, thus rendering the treaty weapon increasingly useless.

Of course we'll see how stupid and Trump-Deranged people around the world are if and when a non-Trump president comes along, whether they then think the US has discovered a new agreement-capability. The answer is that the empire is a monolith, and it's the empire which isn't agreement-capable, not any particular president.

 

Posted by: Russ | Mar 4 2020 19:55 utc | 6

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As cynical as I am, even I'm amazed at how quickly the "peace deal" has fallen apart. But I think some of b's assertions need to be clarified:

    • He needed the agreement to justify a draw down of U.S. troops in Afghanistan.

 

But will there be a draw down? Breaking the agreement so quickly leads me to be very skeptical of any draw down.

Breaking the "peace deal" is entirely consistent with past practice as described here: Lying by Bush and Obama over Afghanistan is this era’s Pentagon Papers

  • He will use that draw down to claim that he kept his 2016 election promise to get U.S. troops out of Afghanistan.

     

    Trump's election promise was much broader. It was to end the wars and leave the Middle East. He stated several times that USA doesn't need ME oil and that USA should let Russia fight ISIS.

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IMO Trump makes phony peace deals so that he's better positioned to make war.

He did the "peace deal" with North Korea before terminating the "peace deal" with Iran.

And only after signing the Afghan "peace deal" did the Trump Administration say that they would provide ammunition to Turkey.

Trump's 'America First' slogan is simply this: USA visibly leading the Empire vs. Obama's "leading from behind" subterfuge. Those who say 'America First' means retrenchment and/or "isolationism" are just attempting to promote the lie of Trump as "peacemaker". A USA President is nothing more than the spokesperson for the Deep State, chief of political psyops, and a 'fixer' for the establishment.

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Posted by: Jackrabbit | Mar 4 2020 19:56 utc | 7

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I almost fell off my bar stool in shock and surprise over the US' breaking of its' agreement with the Taliban to pull its' forces out of Afghanistan. The Taliban aren't stupid folks. Only the US is. The stupidity of our leaders (they do the leading while we, the ordinary people, do the bleeding) is so great as to defy all comprehension. Back in the 18th century a British MP once described a minor peace treaty signed by the government as the "peace of God, for it passes all human understanding." The only way the US will leave Afghanistan is in one of two ways: We will cut our losses and march out, or the Taliban will throw us out. I'll bet it will be the latter.

 

Posted by: GeorgeV | Mar 4 2020 20:10 utc | 8

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If the Mujaheddin defeated the Soviet Union, which withdrew from Afghanistan because it was a stalemate, then the Taliban has just defeated the United States. Perhaps Americans will now STFU about how the Soviet Union was defeated in Afghanistan, but I doubt it because the Americans still believe they won the 1812 war with Great Britain because they won the second to last battle after the the Treaty of Ghent ending the war had been signed even though the United States had failed to achieve any of its political objectives in the war. BTW, the British won the war because they achieved all their political objectives and also won the last battle of the war, the Second Battle of Fort Bowyer on February 12, 1815.

Posted by: Ghost Ship | Mar 4 2020 20:17 utc | 10

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Surely nobody can be surprised that the U.S. violated a peace agreement - this time with the Taliban - within days of signing it.

Neither Trump nor the U.S. establishment in general - and it is unclear how much Trump was involved in violating it, although nobody has been fired for doing so - have any sense of decency or honour, and it's a wonder than anybody still attempts to sign deals with them. I suppose it is worth an effort but I doubt the Taliban expected the U.S. to keep their end of the bargain.

We shall see how they respond to this soon enough.