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Jim Dorchak,Jungerheld, Lalanz,doghouseriley5, mystic
Jim Dorchak
NO NOT THE FUTURE!!!!!!!
The Present. The Past and forever!!!!! The Old Rite is the Church!
Then new rite is NO and no longer knows what it means to be Catholic..
Pro Contraception
Pro Abortion
Pro HOMO
Pro Feminist
Pro SATAN..............................
ANTI CATHOLIC>...............................................
Jungerheld
Oh, the irony: In the NO anything and everything is "yes".
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Lalanz
The old rite forever!!!!!
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doghouseriley5
I'm a TLM guy, but is this a fair comparison? Faithless, nominal Catholics are all lumped in with the New Rite. What if you compare answers of New Rite Catholics who go to Mass on Sunday to Old Rite? I've never seen that statistic tho it must be in the data.
mystic
Unfortunately you are measuring not so much. Even so the two groups are not comparable. It is like having someone pick the "good" apples from a batch, and then have a nitpicker again pick the good apples from that just picked "good" batch. Finally comparing the remaining "good" apples with the nitpicked apples. Of course the nitpicked apples are the best.
Lalanz
Mystic
Yeah right this survey is very accurate.
You must not live in America or do not pay attention to your fellow church members in the new Vatican 2 masses.
It’s a mess...Old right church memebers are the strongest!!!!
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Lalanz
Father Donald Kloster see you in mass this Sunday...we love you!!!
Lalanz
As Fair as it can get!!!! Most if not all of the Modern day priests are asleep at the wheel. I will lay my life down for Fr. Kloster and his survey!!!!
The Tridentine Mass is the future of the Church: This must be the most obivous non-new around. Of course it is!
Some legitimate criticism can be brought against Fr. Kloster's survey, but saying that the Novus Ordites have been sampled unfairly is not one of them.
There is no proper way to define a Novus Ordite since many people who never go to church nonetheless consider themselves Catholics; I know this because I have spoken with many of them. Many who do go to Church but do not believe in the Church's doctrines also consider themselves Catholic; I know this because I have spoken with a lot of them.
Picking Novus Ordites from only those who go to Church would be appling authentic Catholic principles - i.e., traditionalist - on those who consider that the Church has become modern and should abandon such old rules and it is interesting that even those who fault the survey for misrepresenting Novus Ordites readily admit that the Tridentine Mass-going crowd is more Catholic than the Novus Ordites, otherwise they would not use traditionalist standards to complain about the mis-sampling of 'Catholics' in the Novus Ordo crowd.