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Prayerful ,Constantine, Paul , James Joseph , Tancred , Peter , Anonymous
Prayerful said...
Silly as they almost alone upheld the Mass of Ages and valid orders. The Conciliar TLM using the SSPX only 1962 is now a huge community. Now at a Novus Ordo Missae, the youngest there is the altar girl.
September 14, 2020 at 12:45 AM
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Constantine said...
The SSPX has everything to contribute to the Catholic Church. However, I would say, in general, Russia's policy of arresting sects usually apply to Devil Worshippers, Mormons, Jehovah Witnesses,Scientologists, Pentecostals, and Adventist garbage. Russia is following a traditional policy of maintaining and protecting an Orthodox State. Same as Catholics, Russia teaches that Church and State should ideally be one. We call that the Teaching of the Kingship of Christ King. The Orthodox don't mind us having this Teaching out in Catholic Countries. But they feel that they are the true "Catholic Church" in Russia. I am betting that these 2 guys showed up for Mass, arranged at the request of Catholic Traditionalists, which I guess is still ok, but crossed the line when these 2 guys were given a sermon hostile to the Orthodox and followed up with literature distributed to these guys who were Orthodox and not convinced of Catholicism's superiority. They probably later went to authorities to complain. The government currently is having political problems with NGO and foreign pro-globalist sponsored protesters and dissidents and by a pro Gay Rights and feminist leftist opposition.
September 14, 2020 at 12:47 AM
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Paul said...
Well done SSPX! Validly offering the traditional Latin Mass is exactly what should be happening throughout Russia and neighboring countries. Any positive law that criminalizes the Latin Mass is invalid and should rightly be ignored.
September 14, 2020 at 2:18 AM
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James Joseph said...
Simply put Russia is a Jewish country. Jews like to keep tabs on everything. It's what Jews do.
America and the rest of Europe are different... only not that different. Same Jew control.
September 14, 2020 at 5:44 AM
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Tancred said...
The Catholic Church was persecuted much more harshly than this under the Czar, maybe its just a cost of doing business at this point? Depending on Father’s ministry, 5k is a small price to pay?
September 14, 2020 at 8:12 AM
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Peter said...
SSPX has much work to do in conversion in North America.
September 14, 2020 at 8:18 AM
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Constantine said...
I have been in these countries before. Ukraine, Russia, much if Eastern Europe. In 2001, 2002, 2003, the Ukrainian government registered "approved" religions. But it was a problem when your religion does not fall neatly in its niche.
The Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church us a registered/approved faith. But the traditionalist Greek Catholics, called the Society of St. Josephat did not fit in as Orthodox or Catholic.
In a nutshell, it is probably more of an issue of red tape and bureaucracy. It's too simplistic to say it's a "Jewish" thing. They tend to support the sexually liberating opposition that support lifting restrictions on gays, and transgenders, and live from NGO monies and globalist economics.
September 14, 2020 at 10:50 AM
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Anonymous said...
CMRI have a few very small mission chapels in Russia.
SSPX + CMRI are doing the Lord's work in Russia,may God bless both orders.
-Andrew
September 14, 2020 at 1:31 PM... Anonymous said...
The Orthodox churches belong to the World Council of Churches.
Patriarch Kyrill is former KGB and various Orthodox Patriarchs take part in U.N. sponsored
World religion days.
The Orthodox are every bit corrupt + infiltrated as the Novus Ordo.
God bless
Andrew
September 15, 2020 at 5:02 AM
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Constantine said...
All churches and countries have been to some extent been infiltrated.Riots happen in Russia and Syria and Egypt, and the US, and everywhere else. All in the name of the "people". But its relative. Some places more infected than others. The more transparent the political and social and economic system, the more controllable to powerful outside forces. It's a myth that the more transparency in institutions means more power to small people. Because see the small people can see things, but still too small to do anything about it. Only leftist "Community" Groups can put resources together. Still, Russia insulates itself from much of what's going on. And it separated itself from the Orthodox Church, creating a separate church. It's no secret that this separation got Rome upset. Because Rome was trying to put all churches togetherinto a one World Church.The Russian Church does not love the Dali Lama.And the current Patriarch knows Coca Cola is not the "real thing".
September 16, 2020 at 2:11 PM
In principle I am not against the decision of some Russian authorities to impose fine for unrecognised religious activities, even though this time the sword fell wronglly on the SSPX. It is indeed the state's job to protect the moral integrity of its people.
As Constantine points out, it is probably more a case of the SSPX being an unknown entity and them having not filled the bureacratic red tape, and the fine itself is pittance.
Still, it is telling that the SSPX once again is on the radar as going to "the ends of the Earth" to preach the Gospel while NOChurch all the while tells people that all religions are the same, with Bergoglio's "proselytism is solemn nonsense" seeming to be their banner. Clearly, the Russians do not believe that proselytism is nonsense and that is a good attitude.