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Pardon me while I puke!
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Not really funny and not at all respectful of either our pope, or all the priests who serve the NO order with great reverence and care for the rules, or the millions of faithful catholics who come into God's presence through the NO. But I guess respect for pope, priest, and fellow catholics isn't necessary, so long as one does all the right OUTWARD things
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Gaby, this is satire
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The millions of Catholics who come to the NO come because they are forced to. They have no alternative since the Mass of ages was forcibly taken from them.
There's nothing respectable about the Novus Ordo. The entire point of its creation was to reduce the reverence for God - and to elevation the reverence for man.
Oh, get a grip, will you? Damo B, Paul Hellyer and Lazarus G are all correct.
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The difference in the amount of kneeling done in the two different rites is indeed considerable. In the EF one sinks to ones knees at the very beginning of Mass (and if incapable of rising there one stays) whereas in the NO we have to wait until the end of the Sanctus. I have always found this discrepancy disconcerting.
Regarding the first one I actually saw an interview with a priest on the internet where he was describing his new church which had a pew arrangement in order that people could chat comfortably before Mass.
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We also have a designated place where people can chat comfortably before Mass. It's called the street outside.
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Some of us have a choice.I attend the EF Mass but it is probably not an option for most. Maybe N O masses should be boycotted.Arrange for bus loads of people to attend the Latin Mass .Pack the churches out and have queues outside and demonstrations with the laity armed with palm fronds and banners If action is not taken soon our faith as it is meant to be practised will disappear .I'm just wondering if it is sinful to smite dissident clergy with palm fronds. Probably is...maybe not with fern fronds.
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I am surprised at Gaby's comment. I found the article both amusing and sad and not at all disrespectful as it reminds us so much of the differences between the two rites - I do attend both. As for the Grope of Peace I have nicknamed it the Grip of Peace since receiving such a crushing handshake on one occasion I ended up in A & E.
I rather like Cressida's idea of arranging buses to take people to the EF Mass (I make my way to two nearby towns twice a month in order to attend a Sunday EF) However sadly there are so many Catholics to whom the Mass of Ages is not welcome that we would be lucky to fill a minibus from my parish let alone a full bus.
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I agree. Most won't attend EF because the accompanying is not there. If there was true Catholic teaching at Mass then they would all want the EF.
If you read the Hidden Treasure by St Leonard of port Maurice you would really understand the sacred beauty of Holy Mass and wonder what evil intention devised the NO.
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No it is not funny that the Catholic Church has been diminished by sacrilegious practice to fit a secular society . For decades, Catholic education has failed to enable Catholic youth to understand and appreciate our heritage and the precepts and dogma of Christ's religion.At least if we strayed my generation had something to return to...now they have nothing.
And no...this is not satire.
Yes Cressida. I agree entirely with you. The next generation of Catholics raised with the NO and the limp wristed sermons by effeminate priests will just simply lapse as soon as they grow up. The current ethos does not demand sacrifice. No one thinks of dying for the faith anymore for example.
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Very funny! Thank you for the comic relief! “Gather us in, the proud and the haughty!” Ohhh Yeah!!!
Don’t forget the latest sports events broadcast before & after, & sadly even during the Mass! While on vacation, I went to one church, where they were selling religious goods inside near the door & while sitting in the pews, I had to turn around to remind the guy behind me, that he was actually in a Catholic Church & should turn off the boisterous March Madness basketball game on his cell phone. I was bit mad myself & felt like turning over some money changers’ tables! “WWJD!?!”, indeed!?!
At another “mod” Church, I remember shaking my head at the music selection we suffered through at a “Youth” Mass, because, unfortunately, we didn’t make it to an earlier Mass, not particularly dedicated to the “Youths”. The think tanks thought it was best to reach the “Youths” through relevant “mod” music. They played some so-called “mod” hymn/song which incorporated the ol’ 1929 song, “Puttin’ on the Ritz”! Somehow we were all confused by that number! They also played a Michael W. Smith song. It was a total cheese fest!
It was a newer Catholic Church, built in the South & it looked like a huge white box. Amongst all of the white, the “mod” colorful windows stood out showing Christ’s disciples, but they looked like “Meathead” from “All in the Family” & “Festus” from “Gunsmoke”! It was hard to be serious & concentrate, while looking at those characters!
The innovative pastor put sand in the holy water fonts during Lent, so they looked like ash trays, & had people call out their own spontaneous prayers for the Prayers of the Faithful during Mass. The parishioners should have prayed to have the church interior changed, including the windows and the pastor!
(Thankfully, we moved from that parish!) :D
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This article is very confusing.
Is it satire or is this just a description of what the author observed last Sunday?
I particularly like the "grope of peace" as one reason to prefer the Novus Ordo.
This list of liturgical abuses and absurdities can be made very long.