The Revolution of Vatican II was Misinterpreted?

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Saturday, August 5, 2017 - 23:15
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Many have not read the history of the N.O. Mass, so this article is timely, and concise. Catholics need to be informed, and then reminded, of these truths because of the barrage of false information constantly given to us.

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    I refuse to attend the Novus Ordo ritual now...there is nothing there for me. And I believe the old injunction to attend weekly Mass is no longer valid. I believe the obligation to attend Mass was the true old Church's way of telling us there was no way to save us except by participating in the old Mass.

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      Well, it there wa a warning from the BVM about a bad council and bad mass. “There is more than what we published,” according to Ratzinger said. He also mentioned the published part of the Secret as authentic, but that there is an unpublished part of the Secret which speaks about “a bad council and a bad Mass”. The Novus Ordo compromises, and those who attend it compromise with the world. Those who attend may not immediately know it, but little by little over time they have become weak. I believe Archbishop Lefebvre was the lieutenant that was asked to lead the charge against the enemies in Rome and about. He has since passed several decades ago, but his soldiers fight on. We are made convinced by the world that being too holy is not normal. That the Latin Rite is too archaic, something better regulated to the past. When we believe that we become less than what God created us for. Humanity has forgotten their God and doing so has forgotten what it means to be truly man and chases after shadows and phantoms.

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    When 1) An ordinary Catholic seriously doubts the validity of the consecration and 2) the whole NO Mass rather than strengthening one's faith, crushes it under insipid banalities then, yes, there are limits.

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"Hence the radical changes of today do not reflect a misinterpretation of Vatican II, but a true interpretation as intended by the original architects. This is why we have all the problems today."

True.

Vatican II is to the Catholic Church as the 1968 Convention is to the Democrat party: a revolutionary event because it was hijacked by radicals who intended to alter things forever, alter them to the hard left.

The only way that Vatican II can 'remain on the books' and not cause endless trouble is if a Syllabus of Errors is applied to all Vatican II documents and the history of the implementation of the council.

And that would essentially kill Vatican II.

Cato the Elder said in almost every speech: Carthago delenda est - Carthage must be destroyed. We all should say all the time: Vatican II must be rejected.

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Fr. Gregory Hesse convinces me that Vatican II only seemed to be a council. To sum up his argument, I'll write, "To be an ecumenical council, a synod needs to use extraordinary Magisterium to define dogma, condemn falsehoods, or do both. Vatican II did neither. So it wasn't an ecumenical council."

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Permit me to unscramble a broadly held misnomer; Vatican II did not because it cannot change the Catholic Church. Conservatives know that the Catholic Church is unchangeable and therefore Vatican II is and continues to be a schismatic fraud or, more accurately, just another Protestant Church. One would have to embrace the heretical concepts of ecumenism and relativism to think the post-Vatican II Church could ever be relative to the Holy Catholic Church. It's an absurd nightmare. Our Lady of Fatima have pity on us.

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    Some major voice in Vatican II characterized Vatican II as the French Revolution in the Church. I am sure someone can identify who said that. And yes it definitely was a revolution. Like the French Revolution it wanted to throw our the old Church by renaming the sacraments. This had the effector throwing discredit on the previous practices of the Catholic Church. They changed the names of the sacraments just like the leaders of the French Revolution changed the name s of the months and the names of the days of the week. The French Revolution was a disaster. Vatican II has been a disaster. compare the encyclicals of Pope Pius XI and Pope Leo XIII for example with the writings of Vatican II. I was a member of a small study group around that time, We studied the encyclicals the pre Vatican II Popes and we would have no trouble understanding them. then we read some encyclicals of Vatican II Popes and we would read them and then look at each other wondering what they meant. And the Popes after Vatican II would never make references to anything that a re-Vatican Ii wrote. Absent in them was a mention of the name of a previous Pope of "happy memory." And now I wince when a Vatican II Pope is cited as an example of orthodoxy. They only seem to defend orthodoxy when compared with what is going on today. They not only dumped the Latin Mass, but the revolutionists made fun of the old Latin Mass and said unkind things that were absolutely false. Oh, yes it was an inglorious revolution.

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      "Some major voice in Vatican II characterized Vatican II as the French Revolution in the Church"
      As couchback wrote it was Archbishop Lefebvre. It's been many years since I have come across Lefevre's statement, but I remember it being his.

 

 

 

 

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The Remnant represents the vanguard of the traditionalist movement, so we can expect its readers to be more hardened in their attitude towards the Novus Ordo, not least because they have probably been at battle longer with the NOChurch forces. For that reason, the near-unanimous unmitigated hostility towards the Novus Ordo Missae cannot, in all likelihood, be said to be representative of the traditionalist movement in general.

I would like to think, however, that the attitudes against the Novus Ordo have become fiercer on account of the rapid decline we have seen in the Church since Bergoglio was elected, as the destruction that the Novus Ordo has prepared is unveiled in plain sight.

These attitudes are on full display in the comments above, and I for one cannot claim that the comments are unjustified, shape or form.