PETER HITCHENS: I am, for the first time, afraid for the future of freedom in my country

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Oliver Wessex  ,  Onefluoverthecuckoldsnest, Mr M Killick , Martin , GoodShepherd,  John Main, Michael Wood, C. Morrison , Geoff Harris   

Date: 
Friday, February 5, 2021 - 14:30
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C. Morrison mentions the rhetoric of Pompeo who can always be relied upon to show his neo-con colours with regard to countries he likes to intimidate. Perhaps he thinks like Faucci that he will be useful to the new regime. It will be interesting though to see what the new foreign policy will look like given the variety of crazies that call themselves Democrats. Or maybe as usual it will come down to what the deep state and vested interests want leaving to them things like gender experimentation on the passive masses.

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Bolshevik Lies Matter has been doing political violence for months, much more extreme at that, and yet because a few patriots had a peaceful protest up on capitol hill the shrieking is off the charts? They want it to end as it started I suppose

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Posted by: Bill | 13 January 2021 at 04:12 PM

"Having spent most of my working life in MIS [Management Information Systems], including as a consultant to a Fortune 500 company, here is my advice to Boris to get information to enable him to cease his unending blunders."

If Johnson and the rest of those miscreatns who are wrecking the country - and many others - were to take your advice, then that would mean admitting that what they have been doing all along was a mistake.

Can you imagine the lawsuits? Can you imagine the initial head-scratching, turning into furious rage from those countless business owners who've seen their enterprises desimated on the quasi-religious altar of Covid? Can you imagine the outcry from those disgruntled people in the prime of their life with cancer and other life-threatening conditions, who've been triaged off in order to try and add a few more months of life to some very elderly and frail people?

When I heard Nigel Farage speaking on that last point a few weeks ago - and I'm presuming he wasn't lying - he said that average life expectancy is 82.3, whereas the average age of those dying either with or from C-19 was 82.4.

That is like the National Institute for Health and Care Excellence agreeing to spend £1,000,000 on every case of the common cold until it is eradicated. The analogy is loose, but should be adequate to make the point.

Before leaving that point, I should quote from 'Corona, False Alarm?' by Karina Reiss and Sucharit Bhakdi, Chelsea Green Publishing (16 Sept. 2020):

"Thus, even "harmless" coronaviruses can be associated with case fatality rates of 8% when they gain entry to nursing homes."

And I bet you won't hear that comparison highlighted on the BBC.

On just about every metric for which there is adequate data, the Government and SAGE knows that this is insanity, but they cannot turn back.

They know that, according to WHO guidlines, the way in which most people wear their mask - see my post below - renders them utterly futile. They know that the PCR test returns an alarming number of false positives - see the work of Dr Mike Yeadon. They know about the reports from various cancer charities, women's groups and so on as to the harm that their actions are doing. They know that there are now at least 25 published papers showing that there is no congruence between deaths and lockdowns of varying severity - Ivor Cummins has compiled a list of them on his website, just search 'ivor cummins'.

And yet, in the face of all that evidence, they carry on just as they have from day one, 23rd March, when Hancock announced measures that weren't even legally enforcible until three days later. (This was stated in a lecture given by Lord Sumption that was posted on YouTube. However, at the moment my internet connection is making it impossibly slow to find the exact video).

So, your suggestions, however sound they may be, don't have a snowball's chance in hell of being taken seriously, if for no other reason than the one I outlined in my opening two paragraphs above.

beatpoet "I’ve seen or heard nothing in his comments which I would regard as “inciting an insurrection.”

Indeed. Not that I am a supporter of Trump in any way but the very sight of him is enough to incite rage in any pink hatted wokist who isn't interested in the policies but merely in the drama surrounding the puppets in the movie they are being fed by the televison cameras. There was a very successful political strategist who said that in order for Marxism to succeed don't focus on policy, focus everything on one individual whom you can blame every event on. And that's exactly what they've done with Trump. Divide and rule.

While all the woke supporters on both sides are distracted by identity politics and arguing which side is to blame, the permanent government are bringing in a fascist police state taking away freedoms by the hour, destroying millions of independent livelihoods and making what is potentially the biggest power grab in history. All without a care or whimper from those who have become so detached from reality that they are more concerned about what a reality TV President with days left in the job said on Twitter than the lifetime of misery, tyranny and total control that is coming around the corner in the fourth industrial revolution. As with any revolutuon, useful idiots are always required for it to succeed.

I think the problem with those who believe in free speech and open debate is that unlike those who don't, they are not very good at promoting their cause.

Just as at one time there was general public awareness of something called "The Noise Abatement Society", which to my surprise apparently still exists, but sadly has been so quiet lately, nobody hardly has heard of it.

My guess is it got mostly drowned out by a chorus of millions of ghetto blasters, so given huge numbers still have problems with noisy neighbours, the sound terrorists won.

So if we think of this objectively, what happened was that *the idea* of buying a ghetto blaster (or loud home hi-fi) defeated *the idea* of being considerate to your neighbours and not driving them mad with loud music with a thumping beat - I bet *everyone* knows what I mean, when they read the *thumping beat* part.

So the successful propagandists have slogans that catch on like "Black Lives Matter" or "Women Against Rape" etc.

But when the likes of Mr Mason talks like the quotes above, it appears to me we should have a slogan to reply to him and his kind which ought to shame him into repenting.

Such as "The Right to Choose."

That seems to me above all what we seem to be losing at present, because after all that is the fundamental principle of democracy, as democracy means voting, and voting means choosing, because it's only in a dictatorship that there is only one party to vote for.

So I rather think how we should be replying to Mr Mason and his kind who seek to say we should not have alternative views allowed to be expressed on covid or anything else, is "You mean, you do not trust the public to assess for themselves information put before them?" "You believe the public are too stupid to be trusted to make their own decisions, too stupid to be allowed to have *the right to choose*?"

And if that is your thinking, Mr Mason, then they would also have to be regarded as too stupid to choose between candidates at an election, so therefore what you are actually proposing is the end of democracy, aren't you, which is dictatorship, isn't it?

This appears to be true of any political or scientific views also.

Surely if somebody puts forth an idea that is believed ridiculous by others, such as for example that covid may be a biological weapon that is causing mass madness, surely the public should be allowed to decide with their own minds if that idea is stupid or not?

Or like Mr Mason, do we not trust the public to use their own brains and make their own minds up?

Do we not think they are entitled to hear all viewpoints, and then exercise *their right to choose*?

Which seems to be the fundamental principle in a free and democratic society.

It is a truism for most on the left that support for Covid lockdowns was severely damaged when somebody drove their car to Durham. The argument is that one person being seen to break the rules provides justification for millions more to follow suit.

Compare and contrast the situation in the USA. Estimates vary widely, but there are between twelve and fourteen million illegal immigrants living there. These are people whose everyday lives are built on a foundation of law breaking. As all of President Trump’s efforts to get to grips with this issue were thwarted by those on the left, I think it is clear that the left’s claims that the law is absolute and nobody is above it ring hollow.

In fact, for consistency, we should expect that those on the left who support the “Others break the law so I can also” defence would cut President Trump and his supporters some slack. For example, there were numerous armed insurrections in various US states during 2020. Some of those garnered widespread support.

I fail to see how any country can function coherently and cohesively when law breaking is woven so thoroughly into the fabric of society as it is in the USA. The Democrats can huff and puff as much as they like. Widespread obedience to the law is not coming back to the USA until illegal immigration is dealt with.

@ Elaine Quraishi and all the other anti-Trump victims of media disinformation.

President Trump is far from finished – he is only half-way into clearing the swamp of all that slime seeking to suffocate the world.
Watch and wait - justice and truth will yet win the day.

Michael Wood | 16 January 2021 at 02:00 PM :
*** President Trump is far from finished – he is only half-way into clearing the swamp of all that slime seeking to suffocate the world.***

So which half has he actually cleared?
The toxic slime seems to be just as strong -- or even stronger -- than before.

I have always thought the death figures for COVID-19 are inaccurate. Many deaths have been with people who were sadly quite/ very ill before contacting the virus, I may well be wrong, but I believe the figure recorded could be halved.

 

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It is interesting that the point which Hitchens makes about freedom being in jeopardy does not dominate the comments section.

The U.K. has been in steep decline freedom-wise for at least 15 years, since sodomy became a promoted lifestyle by government using various 'equality' legislations. That put the government as the sole arbitor of all human relations in the country. It's amazing why anybody thought it would not quickly spiral out of control from that.