New FrancisCardinal alleged to have a concubine and children. Well, at least it's a woman!

Submitted by LocutusOP on Sun, 06/03/2018 - 23:34
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Anonymous, Michael Dowd , Ana Milan ,  Dan , Johnno, Justina ,          

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Monday, June 4, 2018 - 00:30
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New FrancisCardinal alleged to have a concubine and children. Well, at least it's a woman!
Anonymous said...

Just another small Scandal from jorge, the biggest scandal is Jorge's election. Begolio is the spawn of Satan.. Period, he is a Antichrist!

10:53 pm, May 28, 2018

 

Michael Dowd said...

This had to be an intentional move on Pope Francis part. And, like all his moves, it will harm the Church.

7:51 am, May 29, 2018
Anonymous said...

These men want the best of both worlds,they don't even have the decency to leave the priesthood and marry these women ,if it wasn't just a career for some of them ,they would do the right thing ,the women are equally to blame,they know they are consecrated to God ,and should insist on them been released from their vows.

8:08 am, May 29, 2018
Ana Milan said...

We knew the destruction of Holy Orders would follow the same path as Holy Matrimony, & so it has. The CC reeks wth sodomy (upstanding straight men have been shown the door over the past six decades) & now the time has come for their way of life, along with other unrepentant sinners, to be affirmed & blessed by their own pope.

PF is blatantly not a true pope & how the eyes of the few remaining conservative prelates cannot see this is because Satan has purposely blinkered them & lay canon lawyers/theologians also. Rules don't always fit with events & must be either circumvented or ignored (as per PF). We can also play that game & must not be afraid as these are dire & forecasted times. Canon Law must be brought up-to-date after this ignominious papacy is ended, even prior to another conclave, to ensure such a similar papal election cannot recur.

9:14 am, May 29, 2018
Dan said...

Wouldn't it be wonderful if those with the power to actually do something about this pope, actually did something! Gosh, that would be nice.

11:25 am, May 29, 2018

 

Johnno said...

Ana,it is not that they cannot see it. All the cardinals and bishops KNOW!

What we need to understand is that this clerical generation has been raised in a culture of corporate PR. Where they are trained to distort the truth for the sake of the company image, to retain customers and keep the investors and board members happy. In other words, carefully constructed lies and ambiguity for the sake of image projection that everything internal and on the books are fine and everything us okay, and even if they are caught in the lie that there is plausible deniability before the judge and jury and shareholders.

They will pretend otherwise and obfuscate until they are about to be put in handcuffs for certain, in which case they will try and make a deal.

Unless this generation of bishops supernaturally converts, they must all die. Die quickly and together preferably so that their habits are not passed on. The next generation will have to be raised in such a hazardous environment, that the PR practices of our time are literally impossible to maintain, and therefore they gave no other recources other than the Truth.

11:48 am, May 29, 2018
Ana Milan said...

But Johnno, the CC is haemorrhaging both seminarians & congregations. It would seem that this is what they actually want to happen. But it would be exceedingly disheartening if it were verified that ++s Burke, Müller, Sarah, Eijk & + Schneider & the Polish Bishops also knew five years ago what Sankt Gallen Group were up to & didn't spill the beans. It would make them accessories to the most repulsive Satanic assault of all time on the OHC&A Church with nary a murmur of complaint. If that is so, how could they possibly purport to have anything to say to Traditional Catholics?

There has been no official public warning to PF despite his ignoring the Dubia, Correctio & countless petitions & open letters & no call for a council to say he had excommunicated himself by not upholding the True Faith, Tradition etc. & holding Marxist political opinions (in contrast to Catholic ones) with a full list of his heresies, blasphemies, scandals, upholding unrepentant sinners in their sins despite ++Burke saying this would be the way forward. If these men did know ++Bergoglio & the threat he posed it could be curtains for them as well as for him. It's strange that no Catholic journalist has pushed for such questions to be answered by now - have they been threatened or don't they care about the Bride of Christ?

4:58 pm, May 29, 2018

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Michael Dowd said...

Ana Milan--I think you may be right about Burke, etc. They may have known about all this but think they can fight it be staying where they are and using subversive tactics to undermine the corruption. Obviously, such tactics appear ineffective. Better, I think, to be a martyr for the cause of Truth. What we have in the Church hierarchy is a massive loss of faith and thus their courage.

4:22 am, May 30, 2018
Anonymous said...

Fr Luigi Villa fought freemasonry in the Church ,he survived seven assassinations ,that is the reality of what faithful clergy have to deal with ,and they have to work behind the scenes.

6:40 am, May 30, 2018
Justina said...

Father Hunwicke is now arguing that those of us who find this allegation about the selected cardinal potentially credible are demonstrating an execrable desire for bad things to turn out to be true. Moreover, we are denying Pope Francis the trust he deserves--an allegation extending far beyond absurdity.

People in the Church are treating Jorge Bergoglio the way a naive teenager treats a bad boyfriend. They seem to think that, if we trust him enough, he will become trustworthy; if we love him enough, he is bound to love us back. Or in any case, they contend he is somehow owed such things, no matter how often and how blatantly he twists them for his own unworthy purposes.

No, Father; the problem isn't that people are trying to find sticks with which to beat Pope Francis. The problem is that Pope Francis is the abuser himself. Respect for his most august office (whether he holds it legitimately or as a usurper) does NOT bind us to culpable blindness concerning the man, his words, and his actions. In fact, exactly the opposite is the case.

9:15 am, May 31, 2018
Michael Dowd said...

Agree with Justina. Pope Francis is a failed Pope who must be replaced ASAP. The reason Pope Francis is a failed Pope is because he failing to adhere to and proclaim the historic teaching of the Catholic Church and, even worse, much worse, perverts Church teaching for his own reasons. Father Hunwicke is hoodwinking us--unconsciously we hope.

3:36 am, June 01, 2018

 

 

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The good Fr. Hunwicke is wrong, if what Justina writes is true:

Father Hunwicke is now arguing that those of us who find this allegation about the selected cardinal potentially credible are demonstrating an execrable desire for bad things to turn out to be true. Moreover, we are denying Pope Francis the trust he deserves--an allegation extending far beyond absurdity.

People in the Church are treating Jorge Bergoglio the way a naive teenager treats a bad boyfriend. They seem to think that, if we trust him enough, he will become trustworthy; if we love him enough, he is bound to love us back. Or in any case, they contend he is somehow owed such things, no matter how often and how blatantly he twists them for his own unworthy purposes.

No, Father; the problem isn't that people are trying to find sticks with which to beat Pope Francis. The problem is that Pope Francis is the abuser himself. Respect for his most august office (whether he holds it legitimately or as a usurper) does NOT bind us to culpable blindness concerning the man, his words, and his actions. In fact, exactly the opposite is the case.

Having checked the article  which is almost certainly in question, I must admit that Justina is right and Fr. Hunwicke entirely wrong. As Justina seems to have replied to his piece:

Trust is not "deserved," except by those who have proven themselves equal to it. Pope Francis, to put it mildly, has not. To recognize this reality is not to wish for bad things to be true, but to reconcile ourselves to the sad and spiritually dangerous situation that we are actually dealing with. We don't want to culpably become (if you will pardon the split infinitive) the Neville Chamberlains of the Catholic Church.

The papacy was not instituted so that Argentinian heretics could act without suspicion of malice simply because they seem to be the pope. It was not instituted so that we could suspend our reason or common sense, both of which would have to be obliterated in order to entertain the idea that Bergoglio deserves a benefit of the doubt on anything.

His long and miserable track record shows that the worse a rumour is the more likely it is to be true.

That he is, or seems to be, pope, simply makes his actions far more gravitous, and not less so, and our reaction has to match this reality. Bergoglio has indeed earned the right to be mistrusted on absolutely everything.