Msgr. Bux Interviewed: Pope Must Make Profession of Faith

 

Barbara • 2 days ago

Yes, it seems foolish (evil too) to insist that 'we all just get along' like Catholics, protestants, Muslims, Jews, pagans et al are supposed to form one big tent - a One World Religion. Can you imagine if each 'religion' spoke its creed all at the same time. Babel comes to mind.

Trying to force unity by arbitrarily grafting cults and denominations onto the Catholic Church is asking for chaos. Which is growing around the world.

Even to ask Pope Francis to support a Catholic Creed (or an Oath), let along proclaim that he believes in it is an exercise in futility. But let them have their day. We all die.

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chriscas • 2 days ago

Thank you both Michael and the Monsignor for pointing out the gravity of this situation, The Francisterium is NOT the Magisterium! Kyrie Eleison, Christe Eleison

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  BioFeed • 2 days ago

  The Pope must do this, the Pope must do that. These "demands" are pointless. The equivalent of rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic. The Pope and the Vatican are promoters of the secular/one world/LGBT agenda. The Pope will do noting to reverse course or prove he retains any semblance of the orthodox faith. He is in total control now and there is essentially no opposition. Just one or two bishops out of thousands in the world. If you look at his episcopal appointments he has insured the secular control of the Church will continue for generations. The next Pope will make the moves Francis can't quite yet. Female ordination, acceptance of abortion if a woman's conscious so directs her and on and on.
  Profession of faith? Truth be told most bishops and priests in the West do not believe and could not make the profession. They surely don't believe in hell and eternal damnation based on their behavior, direct or indirect, in promoting the LGBT and secular agenda. When I was inquiring into Catholicism (during Benedict's reign), I spoke with about a dozen priests. Half of them openly said they did not believe in the Real Presence. Some of the others did but said I did not need to accept it to enter the Church. When I asked about outreach/evangelization (coming from an evangelical background) to a person they downplayed it and said it has been superseded by social justice work. None were particular "excited" I was inquiring - as if it didn't matter if I stayed evangelical or became Catholic.
  Faithful Catholics can keep asking for professions of faith or clarification of AL or the change in dogma on the death penalty but to no avail. A waste of time - those same folks will be asking for a profession from the next Pope when he allows for female ordination This strategy won't work but the Pope and the hierarchy are probably happy to see it happen as if takes away any effort at a real solution to the problem. I'll leave it at that other than to say, IMO, that the Roman Catholic Rite can't be salvaged at this point.

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    Remnant1967 . BioFeed • 2 days ago

    So you would have preferred to wake up this morning and NOT read that Msgr. Bux has challenged this miserable pope to his face? I don't get it. Why does someone doing the right thing (even if it's not enough, in your opinion) make you upset? You'd prefer silence and implicit compliance to the man standing up and shouting across the Tiber: BASTA!?

    When a Vatican theologian suggests to the world that the pope needs to make a profession of faith he's setting off all six alarms. It's shock therapy, if nothing else. He's saying the pope is falling into heresy. The pope seems to have lost the faith to such an extent that he must be challenged to make a public profession to the contrary. Such an ultimatum is, in fact, a thundering indictment--and not a mere plea for personal clarification. Coming from Bux, it's also a shot to the heart of this pontificate. You should just go with it.

    God bless Msgr Bux!

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    goatally_ewesome Remnant1967 • 2 days ago

    Indeed....God bless Mgr Bux. Of course it warms our hearts and cheers us up and gives us some hope when we hear these voices crying out in the wilderness....I don't think anyone is saying otherwise. In current circumstances, however, I can also see why BioFeed might see it as an exercise in futility. There are so few....and no-one is listening to them.

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Marcus Aurelius Tarkus • 2 days ago

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  Two Small Coins • 2 days ago

  Pope make profession of faith? What good would that do? He already does that at every Sunday Mass. Yet when he speaks those words, does he mean what you and I mean?

  Words can be interpreted in many different ways. He has proved that repeatedly throughout his pontificate, and nowhere more so than by Amoris Laetitia.

  No. Let him rescind Amoris Laetitia and every other thing he has written to date, for it is all contaminated, and then I'll believe that he means business.

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    Remnant1967 . Two Small Coins • 2 days ago

    When a Vatican theologian suggests to the world that the pope needs to make a profession of faith he's setting off all six alarms. He's saying the pope is falling into heresy. The pope seems to have lost the faith to such an extent that he must be challenged to make a public profession to the contrary. This is a thundering indictment--and not a mere plea for personal clarification. Coming from Bux, it's also a shot to the heart of this pontificate. God bless Msgr Bux!

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  Suriani • 2 days ago

  Kyrillos Loukaris (1572-1638) patriarch of Constantinople was influenced by and had personal sympathies towards Calvinism although many Orthodox would vehemently dispute that despite much suggestive documentary evidence.
  Is the current pope Lutheran or at least neo-Protestant in his sympathies? Is he being protected and ‘veiled’ by papal apologists when in his reasoning he has stepped beyond the bounds of the Catechism of the Catholic Church?
  Is superficially Catholic language and cult masking heresy going viral?
  Have we a ’Loukaris’ on the Throne of St Peter?

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    James Suriani • 2 days ago

    I think Jorge Bergoglio is a Christian relativist, an inter-denominationalist. He admires Martin Luther at least as much as he admires any Pope other than Paul VI and John XXIII, but Bergoglio is not Orthodox Lutheran. He clearly supports many things near and dear to the hearts of contemporary Lutherans and Anglicans - and to many Methodists, Pentecostals, Unitarian-Universalists, etc. I think he wants to arrange a synthesis among those groups and the Catholic and Eastern Orthodox churches.

    Just think about a church, the One World Church, that has a theology and praxis that are approximately 1/3rd Vatican II Catholic, 1/3rd liberal Eastern Orthodox, and 1/3rd Mainline Protestant, with snippets from various low church Pentecostal groups.

    The lesbian and gay former Lutheran and Anglican bishops would be promoting James Martin for Pope. Mark Shea would be so excited he'd never be able to stop wetting his pants.

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    Suriani James • a day ago

    The Vatican is now a bastion of neo-Modernism however one might interpret its sources and taxonomy. It is ‘Christian’ in as much as Mormons, JWs and Unitarians are ‘Christian’. Beyond the obvious externals it is not Catholic in any meaningful sense. How often do modernist prelates use the term Catholic? Has it become an offensive, sectarian term at odds with the syncretic religious diversity promoted by the papal apparatchiks.
    Küng, the dark force lurking in the Vatican cellars, admires the fluid, non-binary thought processes to be found in late Anglicanism. ECUSA, so liberal it acts as a sponge for heresy, mystic novelty, neo-pagan ‘spirituality’ and anything else that fits its non-reasoning, non-judgmental all-are-welcome ‘theology’ may be a template for a cyber age UniChurch.
    This easy going, open minded, sentimental stuff, the somewhat dated Hippy Christ syndrome has found favour with many Catholics lay and clerical for whom the faith prior to Vat2 was just too heavy and ‘churchy’. The hollowed out ‘prayer halls’ constructed for the brave new régime ‘lite’ speaks volumes.
    Sexual libertarianism is historically an early indicator of socio-cultural decline. That it stalks even the sanctuaries of the Church is a warning of what we might expect from these retro disco dancing ‘divines’ supposedly in charge of our spiritual welfare.
    Loukaris was strangled and his body thrown into the sea. He was a foe of the Jesuits, enough for the Greek Patriarchate of Alexandria to canonize him in 2009.

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  BioFeed James • 2 days ago

  I'd argue he is a universalist. All religions are paths to God and sufficient. His admiration for the religion of peace is dumbfounding. In the light of Christian persecution in the mid-East. The author of "The Crucifix on Mecca's Front Porch" recounts how an Egyptian Jesuit priest visited Francis and told him how Egyptian Christian's (mostly Copts but a growing Pentecostal presence) are being oppressed by the Muslims in that nation. Francis would have none of it and brushed him off. He clearly believes in a one-world federation of religions. And is pursuing such. A one world church under the Vatican could come about if the globalists prevail. But they won't as Muslims will refuse to submit. Of course the Muslims are globalists in their own way - they are working towards a worldwide caliphate. Many have said the great conflict at the end of this century will be between the secular globalists and the religious globalists - the Muslims who by late this century could be 60% of the world's population. .

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    Gwynn Ap Nudd BioFeed • 2 days ago

    I hold that he's a Satanist - his passion for chaos, scandal, and destruction is simply overwhelming.

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Catherine • 2 days ago

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Henry Ptak • a day ago