"A Mask Is Not A Political Statement. It's An IQ Test."

Submitted by LocutusOP on Tue, 06/30/2020 - 23:53
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Clincher, Skip, oldhippie, Michael Droy,  450.org, dp,  Skeletor,  C,  oldhippie           

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Monday, June 29, 2020 - 23:00
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"A Mask Is Not A Political Statement. It's An IQ Test."

 

"A Mask Is Not A Political Statement. It's An IQ Test."

Indeed. If you "believe" in masks, you failed the test. Many European countries have ended lockdowns without masks, and yet covid is fizzling out. Same in Sweden, which never had a lockdown and never had masks to begin with. Austria pulled them two weeks ago.

Why do "cases" increase in some parts of the US? Because testing increases, especially in the younger folks who go back to work and rarely experience any symptoms anyway.

Moa's fall during the covid pandemic has really been unprecedented.

 

Posted by: Clincher | Jun 25 2020 17:40 utc | 1

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My son is a Plastic Surgeon. He operated at Children's Hospital in Houston, doing cranial facial surgery on newborns. Before medical school he achieved a masters degree in cell molecular biology. When the entire corona virus BS began in March, he said, "The virus molecules are so small, masks don't matter". AND because the incentives hospitals have to put people on ventilators, many patients will be exposed to the vent protocol and will DIE; their lungs having been blown up with max pressure mistakes.

He has been correct on both.

Posted by: Skip | Jun 25 2020 18:06 utc | 9

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A positive test is not a case. Except for writers of headlines.

In China the standard for a case was two positive tests followed by a CT scan which showed specific characteristics of covid. Here in US the CDC definition of a case is quite complex. You can read it at their site if you wish. But diagnosis, even per CDC, is not by a positive PCR test.

For some time I was following the Illinois Department of Public Health site. Then one day I discovered they broke out testing for each postal zip code in the state and in each zip they broke out testing for eight different age groups. First column would say that 8% of tests given went to persons under twenty years of age and second column would say 8%of the positives were for those under twenty years of age. Except for the 80 plus age group Column A and Column B were essentially identical. In many zip codes they were completely identical and variation was never more than one or two points except for 80 plus. Every zip code it lined up.

That is an impossible result. Absolute confirmation that the test does not mean much at all. Perform enough tests you will get positives. A month ago or three months ago it was basically impossible to get tested in Chicago. You didn’t ask for a test, they chose you for a test. Now they are begging people to come in and get tested. Few takers.

No one has any idea how many cases there are. For press purposes those who test positive who never show symptoms are “asymptomatic”. In most cases they just plain were never infected. No one knows. There is still almost no actual treatment for those who are ill, except basic supportive care. There are still no admonitions to do basic basic steps such as taking vitamin D and zinc. Mask wearing is enforced in commercial establishments, otherwise masks are going away, as is social distancing. Masks never took hold here.

Hospitals overwhelmed? So far as I am able to determine, after the NYC metro area, where I sit is the number two hotspot in US. Somehow the press never looks at Chicago. Texas and Arizona have little activity compared to Chicago. My nearest hospital, 751 beds, has one covid patient.

 

Posted by: oldhippie | Jun 25 2020 18:08 utc | 11

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The real questions are about death rates per infection and immune rates. Models are supposed to assume that some people might just be immune or resistant, all covid models assume 0% resistance. And yet we know that children, who spread coughs and colds amongst each other rapidly, show much much lower rates of infection. So resistance does seem to be a thing.

Death rates are down to about 0.2% - 0.3% now on some studies. That could be reduced to 0.15% if resistance is a thing.

The smart message is that getting infection rates up above 25% (while protecting the weak and aged) is actually the right policy.
Wearing masks is playing a different game.

 

Posted by: Michael Droy | Jun 25 2020 18:36 utc | 14

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@13, that is exactly what's going on. The non-essential workers are being paid for providing services that are not being consumed. If it wasn't already, this truly is a Potemkin Economy. Many of these non-essential workers, and I'm loathe to call them workers because they truly do not work especially compared to essential workers, get paid triple figures for sitting at their desk and surfing The Net and/or attending meetings and sucking the bosses' and the shareholders' dicks. The non-essential workers are getting paid exorbitant salaries to be the facade of the Potemkin Economy.

My brother and his wife are case in point. Non-essential workers and they're sitting pretty right now. Unaffected, at least economically. They just sold their home in Florida for $650,000. They bought it two years prior for $525,000. They turned around and bought a condo for $675,000. They're confidant they can sell the condo in a couple of years for $800,000. Fyi, the condo has a view of a park where hordes of homeless folks hang out. They, my brother and his wife, are unflappable about this. It doesn't affect them one bit. To them, the homeless folk are the way they are because they are losers. They, on the other hand, are winners in this game called life. So the view of the homeless sleeping and defecating in the park is validating for them — it's a constant reminder of how great they really are in their own minds. For now.

Posted by: 450.org | Jun 25 2020 18:42 utc | 16

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We all know that the IQ do not measure intelligence. Wearing masks should be situation
specific. In Washington state the eastern side of the state put up with the lockdown..when all along the westside Seattle area should have been on lockdown. Months later when the eastern part of the state started to resist the lockdown (empty hospitals) the governor heard our pleas to loosen things up in not effected areas... which he did... but now our state is being politically black mailed by Cuomo (as we never mandated masks...) so washington has been put on Cumo's list of states that have a mandatory 14 day quartine if you travel and plan to stay in New York. The day after Cuomo announcement our governor ordered mandatory mask wearing. I told my husband in a week we will be off the list. The masks that are promoted by the state for citizens to wear are scarfs, bandanna and what I call fashion masks...none of which will stop the virus. I checked out stats for hospitalizations for the virus it has been running between 190 and 240 ... that is nothing for a state of 7 millions people. The pandemic in the US as devolved in to pure politics. I don't trust any of the numbers coming out of the states or the CDC> of the 40 or so people who have died in Spokane of the virus at least 5 were gunshot victims that died of their wound but tested positive for the virus so therefore they were entered into the vrius mortality stats... What a joke..

 

Posted by: dp | Jun 25 2020 19:32 utc | 24

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An observation.

So now we have the bizarre situation where (genuine) readers whose only thought crime was to have a different opinion when it comes to COVID-19 are shouted at and called "trolls"... then in the very same breath they are asked for money to help the same person telling them they are "trolls".

And the obligatory swipe at Trump of course because no matter how terrible any other political thing is... it doesn't matter because something something #OrangeManBad

Anyway. Stay safe everyone. And god help some of you with severe double standards/hypocrisy if/when(?) Trump wins again lol...

 

Posted by: Skeletor | Jun 25 2020 19:54 utc | 26

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We have two competing realities: Covid19 is either a destroyer of worlds, or a damp squib. It is either a weapon of mass destruction, or a common cold. People seem to have taken a side with religious fervour, and it is all about belief, because the "science" says whatever your personal belief system wants it to say. It's just like Climate Change®.

I wish I could actually find out the truth, rather than vacillate between "It's serious" and "It's a scam plandemic", with shouty evangelical types on either side.

Posted by: C | Jun 25 2020 21:09 utc | 30

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Anon @ 23

“Careful” states that did it right and have low numbers includes NY, NJ, & CT???????????

You will not begin to know anything until you start to question and query and analyze everything.

Will now point out that all of the official authorities were telling us NOT to wear masks back in January and February. All of the official authorities told us to continue traveling as always and to not even consider closing borders. They also told doctors to intubate early and often. Remember the great ventilator shortage? They told doctors to NOT use steroids. Why is anyone at all still listening to WHO or CDC or Fauci or Gates? Yes, the majority of those critiquing them on YouTube are nutjobs. So what?

The virus is now established and endemic. Taking measures now that we should have taken then will not produce same results. Proclaiming our virtue now will have no effect at all. The horse left the barn a long time ago. The genie will not go back in the bottle. Doing now what we should have done then is a weak weak response. For starters we should try to know something about the disease. One item worth knowing would be how many cases there are. So long as everyone at this bar continues to confound cases with positive tests the day when we know anything keeps going further into future.

We don’t know numbers of deaths either. I am less concerned about overcount of patients ‘with’ as opposed to ‘of’ than undercount in nursing homes. Nursing homes are businesses. They do business by American rules. Regulation is done by bribe and by services on Election Day. The facility I know best was the first around here to admit they had covid deaths. Of course everyone else did too, they just lied about it. As the situation develops the place I know looks better and better. Doesn’t matter. Families pulled their parents out pronto. So the best care facility in town by far is in deep financial trouble for the crime of honesty. And once more we don’t know anything. We have no idea how many have really died in nursing care. It’s a dirty business and no one is even considering cleaning it up. Too much money to be made.

 

Posted by: oldhippie | Jun 25 2020 21:41 utc | 40

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You might notice the unusually large gaps between comment identifiers. That is because I purposely chose to skip all comments which were pro-lockdown or pro-facemask. They were the vast majority.

This Covid-10 fiasco has really been in many ways "the great revealer". From previously assuming that MoonOfAlabama was data-driven I realise now that he is just as ideologically willfully ignorant as the rest of them. In fact, it is from his site that I first read about the "flatten the curve" psyop which has been used to annihilate entire industries.

Those defending shutdowns or lockdowns point to the usual tropes about Sweden. Well, I regret to inform them that life is very much normal in Sweden and that even here, tests are much easier to come by than they were a month ago - when you had to pay quite a lot to get tested - which explains the spike in positive cases. The death count is pretty much non-existent as can be seen here - https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/09f821667ce64bf7be6f9f87457ed9aa - and that is even allowing for the fantasy that everybody they claim has died of Covid-19 has actually died of it, which of course they haven't. There have been crisis meetings at Covid-19 wards (I have been reliably informed) because they have run out of patients, not because they are overburdened. This is the real Sweden, not the fantasy house-of-horrors what is being bandied about not only in the international press but even by the Swedish press.

In any case, I shall be extremely careful with any information I pick up from MoonOfAlabama henceforth.