Invade Syria? Please, Mr. Trump, Don’t Feed the Hawks!

Submitted by LocutusOP on Mon, 04/23/2018 - 21:43
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AvatarMichael Leggett, Sursum corda, Henry Ptak, oldfogey, 
AvatarAugustine7 , alcogli , DMill,  Jerry ,  Robert Dahl , 
AvatarSuriani ,AvatarChristopher Mayerle ,Avatarjola szymanska ,  Traditionalist , Rory Donnellan, oldfogey, 
AvatarMelissa H ,   Frankie ,AvatarDoug Brown ,AvatarRemnant Moderator ,oldfogey, Antrodemus     

            

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Monday, April 23, 2018 - 21:30
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Invade Syria? Please, Mr. Trump, Don’t Feed the Hawks!

 

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    Michael Leggett • 12 days ago

    WHY do I have the sick feeling that the Moussad in Israel is involved in this? Commentary Magazine is part of the Amen Corner for Israel.

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    Henry Ptak Michael Leggett • 11 days ago

    Amen to that - and why do I have the sicker feeling that Mr. Trump is either incapable (or unwilling) to figure that out? Assad gains nothing from what he's being accused of, so who else does?
    May Our Lord and Our Lady have mercy upon our country.

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      oldfogey Henry Ptak • 8 days ago

      Trump is compromised, and a pawn now and controlled, as all our so called "Presidents" have been. They have their marching orders from powers we cannot oppose.

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    Augustine7 • 12 days ago

    The Neo-Cons, Globalists and Christian Zionists, while being strange bedfellows, make a formidable triumvirate. The United States, Israel, Britain, France and Saudi Arabia seem to be forming an alliance against Russia, Syria and Iran with China looming quietly in the background. I’m not normally an alarmist but the signs of the times (Including The Fatima Messages) certainly appear apocalyptic.

    Our Lady of Fatima, pray for us.

    Virgin Most Powerful, wrap us under the protection of thy Heavenly Mantle.

    Most Sacred Heart of Jesus, have mercy on us.

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    alcogli • 12 days ago

    Of course, all the wars of the past 20 years have been prosecuted by the neocons in the interests of their First Loyalty, which is not the US -- to the point of fabricating false flag attacks to scare and galvanize a gullible populace into supporting the madly destructive agenda of a supposed ally that exploits our military for its own ends and is thus really Enemy Number One.

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DMill • 11 days ago

We are already fighting everywhere, and winning nowhere. Syria contains all the necessary tinder to set the world ablaze. Mr. President, do you really want to strike that match?

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Jerry • 11 days ago

Recipe for catastrophe:

One ignorant, blustering President whose governance of the country consists of ridiculous Tweets.

One vast collection of corrupt elites possessed of a rabid hatred of the ignorant President -- though their own collective failure of leadership and character led directly to his election in the first place.

One lunatic conspiracy theory, stoked fanatically by the corrupt elites, that the election of the ignorant President was due to the machinations of a nuclear-armed foreign power, a country suddenly transformed into the locus of all evil in the universe.

One manufactured international crisis with the corrupt elites taunting and manipulating the ignorant President into an insane military confrontation with the nuclear-armed foreign power.

Mix ingredients well.

Set nuclear oven to 30,000 degrees and leave town immediately.

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Robert Dahl • 11 days ago

Which unnamed Mideast "trouble-maker" may be involved in gas attacks in Syria? The repeated occurrence of these gas attacks raises the suspicion that supposed Syrian guilt may be a contrived case of an "agent-provocateur"?---so useful in stirring up excuses for American and Israeli military involvement, in pursuit of Zionist domination of the Mideast?---and with Russia also in the mix? Syria and Russia have stocks of gas-weaponry? Yes, and so does the USA, and Israel too, possess gas-weaponry (along with Atomic weapons)---which Israel steadfastly refuses any international inspection---the regular inspection required of all other nations? This continual anti-Syrian propaganda, seems a cover-up of real evidence, with use of "fake news"?

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Suriani • 11 days ago

Western ‘initiatives’ in the Near East have accomplished what Islam in centuries failed to do, decimate the ancient Christian communities.
The Russians, historically, have attempted to protect them.
Why do people with supposed professed Christian beliefs eg Bush, Blair inter alia, cause such misery and destruction?
It is totemic of this tendency that the atombomb that destroyed Nagasaki exploded above the Catholic cathedral.

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Christopher Mayerle • 11 days ago

The track record of Western powers in the Middle East should give any ruler pause. Trump argues that Iraq was a huge mistake but he's willing to get involved in a similar situation that has even less bearing on the United States and which has the very real possibility of expanding the conflict to our ostensible allies like Egypt and Turkey (although they are allies in name only), not to mention drawing Russia into it deeper.

If our country can't learn from Iraq, what will it take?

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jola szymanska • 11 days ago

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes !

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    Traditionalist • 11 days ago

    I'm hoping that Trump is just playing the deep state/war hawks and doesn't do anything stupid. If anything, Russia should be one of our greatest allies, not our enemy.

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      Rory Donnellan Traditionalist • 10 days ago

      In Russia, same-sex attraction disorder (SSAD) is still considered a mental illness - which is a lot more than any of us can say about the USA! Even in communist China, sodomite public mockeries of marriage are still illegal. The USA has no business invading other nations - while they are so corrupt and morally rotten themselves.

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      oldfogey Rory Donnellan • 9 days ago

      Other societies see that dissolution of sexual identity and unlimited sexual license and fluidity between sexes is the downfall of the cultural order and a way to take control.
      It is why there is the attack by the left, particularly on Russia, Poland, Hungary. This not about interference with elections by Russia, "Equal Rights" or any of that. It's about destroying any social cohesion so the government can take control and restore their "order."
      Called... Cultural Marxism...diametrically opposed to anything Catholic.

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      Rory Donnellan oldfogey • 9 days ago

      Well cultural Marxism seems to be flourishing across the USA where military "intelligence" can't yet determine who is a man and who's a woman and haven't even been potty-trained to use the appropriate bathrooms. And yet we must blindly trust such "intelligence?????" That's not intelligence, that's insanity!

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    Melissa H • 11 days ago

    Our Lady of Fatima, Pray for Us!! Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI, please consecrate Russia to Mary's Immaculate Heart.

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      Frankie Melissa H • 10 days ago

      Which has to be done in union with all the Bishops. So, a way to go then!! And BTW, Benedict is not the Pope.

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      Doug Brown Frankie • 10 days ago

      You say Benedict XVI is not the Pope. Is the mocker of Christ and all that is holy the Pope? Maybe we do not have a Pope. Francis may wear the clothing of a Pope, but he is no more Pope than Trump is a peacemaker

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Rory Donnellan • 10 days ago

Planned Parenthood and their vicious feminazi allies have savagely slaughtered many millions more American children than the Syrians ever will. Silly foreign war-mongering is merely a distraction from the real enemy within. Trump should honor his campaign promises and stop taking counsel from Jarvanka and other Jewish/Israeli warmongers.

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    Rory Donnellan • 10 days ago

    Remember the last time Trump launched Tomahawk missiles on the Assad government after crocodile tears from Jarvanka "for the children?" Turns out that at nearly the same time Jarvanka were meeting with Planned Parenthood's Cecile Richards to discuss ways to increase federal funding for Planned Parenthood. "For the children!"

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      Remnant Moderator . Rory Donnellan • 10 days ago

      Actually, recent revelations from Richards' new book have it that Ivanka met with her to try to convince Planned Parenthood to STOP abortions altogether, the idea being that tax dollars could still be allocated to PP so long as abortion stopped.

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    oldfogey • 9 days ago

    I did support President Trump, voted for him because I thought he had a new message for the United States, especially foreign and also domestic policies.
    Also, I have always thought for 40 years we should bring every child home from these foreign conflicts...he seemed to agree with this.
    His bombing of Syria shows he is nonpricipled, impetuous and also a weak follower, and also compromised to other interests. His first words in his address last night were that Syria was the culprit in last year's chemical attack although he has no proof of it as his own administration said 2 months ago. They have no of the proof now for the most recent episode...except Macron said so (??)
    He is not believable anymore. I believe he would sacrifice our children to Moloch (including Syrian Christians) at the behest of Mr. Bolton and his perspective and in the end not protect us but put us and our children at more peril.
    Do we really want to send our children over there anymore?
    I have no belief he represents me anymore.

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      Rory Donnellan oldfogey • 9 days ago

      Trump's York real-estate business involved making big money deals, not necessarily telling the truth. He also told several women "until death do us part" only to renege on his promises. Clearly his campaign rhetoric to stay well clear of silly wars in the Middle East has been another horrible lie. Yet despite all the lies and deceptions he is still a whole lot better than Hillary Rotten Clinton.

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      oldfogey Rory Donnellan • 8 days ago

      She would have done the same thing. Trump made business deals, she made deals with foreign governments. including the sale of our uranium...no excuse for that, and vast payments for it.
      But, again, he is selling us down the road to war. Cannot understand why he is doing that
      He has negated on all his foreign policy promises.

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    DMill • 9 days ago

    The debate regarding the wisdom or lack thereof of this strike into Syria has created a rift of unknown seriousness between my brother and me. For me, the excuse of "retaliation" for a barbarous gas attack by Assad is understandable if the allegations are true, but it is difficult to defend under scrutiny. If we are assuming the right to militarily intervene in retaliation for specific acts of brutality by any particular regime, are we prepared to do so everywhere that brutality is being committed? If not, by what criteria do we decide to intervene in one particular place, but not in another? Do we respond to all acts of brutality, or only to certain categories of brutality. Will such intervention end the brutality, or will it lead to even more suffering by innocents? Many other such questions could posed.
    In a case like the civil war in Syria where all sides are barbarians, but one group of barbarians is protecting Christians from the other barbarians, what could possibly be gained by helping the anti-Christian elements achieve ascendency?

    I am far from being a peacenik liberal, but I understand that there is much that is not fixable by U.S. military intervention alone, and we don't have the resources to fix the world in every broken place anyhow. I should think that this lesson would be absolutely clear by now. While we are spending American lives and resources around the world, we are disintegrating from within as a republic, and it is an eager tyranny that is waiting to grab power once we disintegrate far enough. We need to focus on the homeland first and foremost. And if we do intervene somewhere in the world, do not put our Christian brothers and sisters in deeper peril in the process.

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      Rory Donnellan DMill • 9 days ago

      Tens of millions of babies brutally butchered across the US and suddenly bloodthirsty warmongers see an urgent need to defend children abroad! Charity begins at home.

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      DMill Rory Donnellan • 8 days ago

      I absolutely agree. If we want to save children, let's start begin right here (this does not exclude trying to save innocent lives elsewhere when we can). Each abortion mill is a death camp, but since the slaughter of the innocents is hidden from view, the horror of it is not perceived by majority of people. Until we end this satanic degeneracy, this republic will continue slide toward its own destruction.

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Antrodemus • 8 days ago

Nothing here quite adds up. It is odd, to put it mildly, to bomb ISIS one day and to bomb ISIS's main Syrian enemy (i.e., the Assad government) the next day. And if the alleged or real use of chemical weapons by bad actors is a suitable cause for military action, it is equally odd that, by implication, we are suggesting that the bad actors are safe if they stick to bombs, bullets, clubs, and rocks to kill people. It is hard to believe that Trump does not have the sense to see these points.
Under the previous and unlamented administration, the theory was allegedly that we would overthrow or at least tame Assad, so that the Syrian people could sally forth to create a liberal democratic state in which all would live happily ever after. Again, it is hard to believe that Trump, the man who can readily identify a foreign poop-hole, is unable to see that Syria is and is going to remain a poop-hole, regardless of what we do or whom we do or do not bomb.
Is Israel putting us up to it? But if Iran is an "existential threat" to Israel because of its alleged or real nuclear weapons program, bombing an Iranian pawn in Syria does nothing to make it less of a threat. (If your enemy is bringing his shotgun down to point at your midriff, the penknife in his pocket is probably irrelevant.) And if Iran is not deemed by Israel to be an "existential threat" because of its alleged or real nuclear weapons program, then the point of all the propaganda is to stir us into a confrontation that would harm Iran and benefit the Sunni Arabs. But why would Israel, unless insanity has seized their government, think that ISIS-dominated regimes on its own borders are a good idea for its security?
There has to be something else going on here. Perhaps the point of the entire exercise was to send a message to North Korea and Iran that they cannot stop us from attacking them successfully

 

 

 

 

 

Own comment: 

We can certainly trust likely bona fide traditionalists to see through the lies of the corrupt Western establishment, just as they see through the lies of the corrupt NOChurch hierarchy. It gives me comfort that readers of The Remnant do not side instintively with war, but apply their mind to current events.

Not a single commenter was in favour of NATO's hypocritical aggression towards Syria on account of the latest chemical weapons hoax/false flag - this particular one was a hoax. The Remnant deserves credit for that.

For sheer comedy, I shall have to highlight Jerry's contribution:

Recipe for catastrophe:

One ignorant, blustering President whose governance of the country consists of ridiculous Tweets.

One vast collection of corrupt elites possessed of a rabid hatred of the ignorant President -- though their own collective failure of leadership and character led directly to his election in the first place.

One lunatic conspiracy theory, stoked fanatically by the corrupt elites, that the election of the ignorant President was due to the machinations of a nuclear-armed foreign power, a country suddenly transformed into the locus of all evil in the universe.

One manufactured international crisis with the corrupt elites taunting and manipulating the ignorant President into an insane military confrontation with the nuclear-armed foreign power.

Mix ingredients well.

Set nuclear oven to 30,000 degrees and leave town immediately.

 

The best analysis though comes from Suriani, and he/she touches on a theme I myself have mentioned before, although the Japan connection I have not mentioned on this blog, not yet anyway, though I have mentioned it privately:

Western ‘initiatives’ in the Near East have accomplished what Islam in centuries failed to do, decimate the ancient Christian communities.
The Russians, historically, have attempted to protect them.
Why do people with supposed professed Christian beliefs eg Bush, Blair inter alia, cause such misery and destruction?
It is totemic of this tendency that the atombomb that destroyed Nagasaki exploded above the Catholic cathedral.

I am quite certain that the outcomes are intentional because I cannot see anybody being so stupid as to commit the same mistakes all over again despite receiving very nearly the same warnings time and time again. They want Christianity to die over there, as well as over here, and everywhere. Everything else is just smokes and mirrors.

The 'West' is the thing that ate up Christendom, and the U.S. is the free-masonic state upon which the de-Christianisation of the Christian continent is based. One can either defend Americanism or defend Christianity. One can either defend 'Western civilisation' or defend Christendom, but we can neither serve nor defend both at the same time since that would be defending that against which many of our forefathers in the faith died fighting.