The Holes in the Official Skripal Story

Submitted by LocutusOP on Fri, 08/17/2018 - 23:06
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Ort, Republicofscotland, Herbie,Mick from Ramsbottom  , Billy Novichok,Muscleguy ,  JOML, glenn_nl,  Jim,Ecstatic Ex Cop,

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Friday, August 17, 2018 - 23:00
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The Holes in the Official Skripal Story

 

  • Ort July 12, 2018 at 20:30

    Thanks for this updated summary; I look forward to the promised follow-up posts.

    I’m confident that your plausible explanations will be free of “knowing”, stereotypical speculation about the depraved ways of either Russian espionage agents or drug users.

    I’m actually a born “truther” type who relishes deconstructing ludicrous official narratives, but I find it depressing that constructing hypotheticals and theories about this truly sinister affair is a recreational pastime for some.

    Keep up the good work, as they say.

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  • Mick from Ramsbottom July 13, 2018 at 20:46

    A valid point, Billy, and one which needs consideration.. Indeed Mr Skripal did make a point of finishing his meal, even though he was seemingly agitated at being late for an appointment! Yes, perhaps the Skripals were ‘in’ on this ‘chemical attack’, ensuring they both had a full stomach before opening the red bag. I hadn’t thought of that — well, I sort of did think about it, but couldn’t understand how they would have been brave enough to deliberately get a dose of whatever-it-was. Then again, drug addicts are brave enough to stick needles in their groin. I’m just a wimp for discounting that as a possible explanation.

    • Billy Novichok July 13, 2018 at 23:19

      I wouldn’t get excessively distracted by any blonde ladies porting red herring bags. Judging by the Skripal family photo album, Russian selfies never count unless you are holding a drink in your hand. Any drink will do, but it’s also okay if it’s always a beer. The media has been a little light on reporting facts and details in this case, wouldn’t you agree? Well… except somebody sent an actual reporter to the italian restaurant and now we know more things than we thought we wanted to know. We learn they requested the table nobody ever wants, we know that Sergei was acting like a raging lunatic, and we even have an itemized account of the bill Mr. Sergei stiffed them for including drinks, appetizers, even calorie counts! Today Sergei will drink wine, after all it is a special occasion.

      Seems like a dumb idea to do certain things on purpose no matter what fancy-pants scientist and his powerpoint on enzymes has to say. Trust me on one thing though, once you cross over to the in-on-the-prank dark side all the puzzle pieces you have already forgotten about will drop cleanly into place.

      Hold open the red bag and I’m going to start counting. Tell me to stop when you feel brave enough.

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  • Muscleguy July 15, 2018 at 13:42

    Be tricky to get the dosage of the prophylactic agents correct unless the per kg body weight dose of the ‘novichok’ is known to a careful degree. So far this highly dangerous and effective agent has killed one homeless woman who it seems was not exactly in the peak of health.

    If afraid of ‘novichoks’ be healthy, stop smoking and get some exercise.

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  • JOML July 12, 2018 at 20:58

    With the UK’s press, the establishment can say absolutely anything they want, regardless of how ridiculous, safe in the knowledge that they will not face any serious questioning. This affair illustrates perfectly how the UK has no real journalism in the mainstream. A very sad state of affairs.

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Mick from Ramsbottom July 12, 2018 at 21:00

There are aspects of this case which were mentioned in the media at the time, but which have subsequently been quietly smothered – and the super-human feat of Detective Sergeant Nick Bailey is given no credit.
We were told that a couple of people, one of whom carried a red bag, walked towards the park bench on which the Skripals were sat. The red bag was put down and the couple walked away. The Skripals opened the red bag and at that point, they were both overcome by their earlier exposure to Novichok. Detective Sergeant Bailey, who’s plain-clothed police duties had him swanning around Queen’s Park that day, was later to collapse next to the Skripals and with the same symptoms. and to facilitate that, our now ex-Foreign Secretary had the Detective Sergeant visiting Skripal’s house, for no reason, it seems, other than to have him grasp Mr Skripal’s door knob. Boris told us that the Detective Sergeant, acting without orders, searched Mr Skripal and found the door key. Being a Detective Sergeant, he knew exactly where Mr Skripal lived and so he set out across the park, across Salisbury town centre and up the road to Mr Skripal’s house, a distance of about four miles. He grasped Mr Skripal’s door knob on his way into and back out of the house, thereby being poisoned by Novichok. He made his way back to the park bench, a total distance of about eight miles, before the ambulance arrived. It seems he may have also looked into the red bag at which point he too was struck by the effects of the Novichok on Mr Skripal’s knob.
For the Detective Sergeant to have walked eight miles in such a short time was surely a super-human effort which is deserving of praise.
There should be a scientific investigation as to why it took, as Craig says, nearly five hours for the Novichok to affect the Skripals, and both at the same time, whilst Detective Sergeant Nick Bailey came down with the same symptoms just a few minutes after touching the door knob, and yet we are told that the Detective Sergeant recovered more quickly than the Skripals because the Novichok had been diluted by the rain!

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glenn_nl July 12, 2018 at 21:06

I wondered about the supposed container which was supposedly near where the Skripals were found incapacitated. Why would the container be anywhere near there, when the attack on them took place at their house, out in the suburbs? No further attack anywhere in public is even alleged, unless I missed something.

Not to mention the obvious point that every single fag-end and bottle cap was presumably examined at the time, and any other rubbish doubtless cleared away multiple times since – Salisbury is quite a nice place, and it’s unlikely individual fag-ends, bottle-caps or military grade nerve-agent containers would be allowed to litter the town centre for months on end.

“Why did they both touch the outside doorknob in exiting and closing the door?”

Ah, this is more clear. Perhaps, Craig, you’re unfamiliar with the very common practice of giving the closed door a good rattle, to ensure it is properly shut, and then all exiting parties shake hands to agree that the door is – indeed – well and truly locked.

Jim July 13, 2018 at 00:34

It has been suggested that the container (if such existed) with nerve agent in it in some form could have been thrown into a pond or part of the river, which has now been exposed by receding water levels due to the recent drought. It hasn’t rained in Wilts (I live in the north of the county) since early June, and then only a small amount, you have to go back to May for a decent days rain, and May itself was a generally very dry month. So given the original poisoning event occurred in early March, when river/pond water levels would be pretty high due to recent winter rainfall, it is conceivable that something was discarded by being thrown into what was thought to be deep water, and maybe was at the time, yet 5 months later has been exposed by a severe summer drought. This item could then have been noticed and retrieved by Rowley and Sturgess on one of their excursions to Salisbury’s parks.

  • Ecstatic Ex Cop July 13, 2018 at 12:35

    Like when kids find a message in a bottle?

  • glenn_nl July 13, 2018 at 13:26

    Why would someone throw the container into the river near to where the Skripals collapsed, when it had only been used at their house several miles away?

    It’s kind of tough to envisage this container thrown into a heavily flowing river would have just bobbed around there for months, then rested on the bank with other flotsom, which some fag-end chasing junkies retrieved, and then the container disappears again forever once they have managed to contaminate themselves – because they resisted the violent effects of this truly deadly agent long enough to dispose of it.

    You’re stretching credulity a bit thin there, Jim.

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Jack July 12, 2018 at 21:09

It happend again?

Full alert in Salisbury as man ‘falls ill’ near restaurant where Skripals ate before poisoning
https://on.rt.com/9a13

  • Doodlebug July 12, 2018 at 21:27

    It’s beginning to look like there’s serial poisoner in the area and their name’s not Vladimir.

    • Shatnersrug July 12, 2018 at 21:59

      Doodlebug,

      How exciting! It’s like the ripper legend! Which member of the establishment could be acting up? a Windsor? I expect a graphic novel at the least!

  • Jack July 12, 2018 at 21:42

    Lets say this “Novichok” was released as a gas, how long could the longevity be?
    Either that or something is seriously contaminated, but its strange that these new cases pops up now and not 4 months ago where it would be more likely.

    • fedup July 12, 2018 at 22:15

      Now they are selling bottled “Novichok” in the open bloody Russians.

      I believe Blair told the truth
      I believe our government has our interests at heart if not mind
      I believe all the stories the “media” publish/broadcast/air
      I believe those damned Russians are trying to subvert our elections, come over here and buy our buildings, and poison our people, and when not doing any of the above they send their planes and ship to harass our boys
      I believe universal credit is a success and pensions should be stopped and the free loading swine of old age pensioners clogging up the super market queues should be put to work, the lazy lay bouts that they are.
      I believe a hole in the head is good for you

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  • Deb O'Nair July 13, 2018 at 00:08

    Anyone remember the Osama bin Laden videos that were continually released? Each bin Laden was physically different from the others, each video surfaced at a time of convenience for the Bush/Cheney admin, and all were reported in the corporate media without any question that they were bin Laden videos. Salisbury is the same; it does not matter if there is a real poisoning or not, as long as there are stories with the words Novichok and Russia being pumped out. As Bush Jr said, you’ve got to propel the propaganda by continually repeating it.

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quasi_verbatim July 12, 2018 at 21:13

I understand that there were ducks involved. And a pond. Which pond has not yet been precisely determined.

I further understand that a homeless man has gone down this evening near Ziggis. Protective clothing is being donned by the attending authorities.

There is more to all this than meets the eye.

  • KEN KENN July 12, 2018 at 21:31

    It may seem a strange point but if this nerve agent is all over the place why are there no dead dogs in Salisbury Town Centre?

    They really do sniff around for things to find.

    Perhaps they have heeded the warnings given out on TV?

    Clever dogs.

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  • John A July 12, 2018 at 21:35

    Well of course, we have the idiotic Guardian that today in a piece by Shaun never has his mobile when he sees evil Russian tricks, writes without tongue in cheek

    “At the Guardian, we try harder than many to give a balanced picture of Russia.”

    LOL. The Guardian is the biggest warmonger Putin is evil CIA luegen presse going.

    • Herbie July 13, 2018 at 01:16

      British elites badly need an enemy now that the manufactured ones are running out.

      That’s just the way they control things, particularly at home.

      But yeah, what happens when the official enemy refuses to play enemy. Is tolerant. And patient.

      And no one else in the international community really thinks this enemy of yours is an enemy of theirs.

      You’re isolated.

      This collapse of British diplomacy internationally, is a direct result of their loss in Syria.

      Big investment in the overthrow of Assad and the dismemberment of Syria.

      But they lost.

      And others will have seen they’ve lost.

      “Never glad confident morning again”

      “Lear”, and power draining away.

      An argument could be made that had they listened to Craig all those years ago then they may have averted this disastrous diplomatic cul de sac.

      • Radar O’Reilly July 13, 2018 at 05:31

        Nice poetic allusions there Herbie, I believe that you sum up the sticky wicket of the UKUSA well. Playing a set of poor choices, badly. Shame.

        One more triumph for devils’and sorrow for angels,
          One wrong more to man, one more insult to God!

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  • Yonatan July 12, 2018 at 22:32

    “Full alert in Salisbury as man ‘falls ill’ near restaurant where Skripals ate before poisoning”

    The revenge of the Skripal’s missing cat? Don’t stroke strange cats in Salisbury. You could be novichocked.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Own comment: 

I give the British a hard time on my blog, but I have to admit that there are few things as funny as good old British humour. Some of the comments to the piece are simply hilarious!

Even by the admittedly abysmal standards of British officialdom, the Skripal poisoning hoax flag wreaks of incompetence. This is not lost on many of the readers, the majority of whom I simply imagine are British folks who have seen through the lies and incompetence of their establishment.