Fulton Sheen’s Beatification put on hold at the request of “some bishops”.

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ArthurH, Gab , Mark, Sean,  scootSpade, Suburbanbanshee ,abdiesus , Matthew, mabvet  , adriennep,BrerJason , Charles E Flynn , The Cobbler , albinus1,Andrew Saucci , oledocfarmer ,moosix1974, mo7                  

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Wednesday, December 11, 2019 - 23:45
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ArthurH says:

 

If I were a bettin’ man…. : A NYC prelate might just come to mind

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Mark says:

 

Father,
Could you please explain why anyone would be against this? What is it about Archbishop Sheen that people would want to stop this. I never understood why the Diocese of NY fought so hard to keep his body either. None of this makes sense to me, can you offer any clarification?

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  • Sean says:

    From what I have heard the canonization process may dig up some things about Cardinal Spellman that New York doesn’t want uncovered

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Spade says:

 

That’s rather uncharitable of the press release. Dolan may be overweight but it isn’t kind to refer to him as “a few members”.

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  • Suburbanbanshee says:

    The Peoria folks just wanted to get it done in the 100th anniversary year of his ordination. What the heck. Rochester is bad news, Buffalo is bad news, this was going to be good news, and then this. Ridiculous.

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Matthew says:

 

What am I going to do with plane tickets to Peoria in December now?

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mabvet says:

 

Grrrrrrr. The same US Bishops who were conspicuously silent during Roe vs. Wade. It’s no wonder why the Church is hemorrhaging sheep.

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adriennep says:

 

This just stinks. “A few members” of US bishops can halt a set beatification date? They are so vindictive of Sheen they had to rain on the parade. It would have been so perfect to have the date 100 years’ anniversary of his priesthood. Fulton Sheen was envied for his celebrity and reviled for his conservative anti-Communism. And it’s a good thing he was so brilliant because otherwise he would not have survived the clerical stench. We have to vividly remember the story of him being touchingly embraced by John Paul II on his first visit to America. JPII only wanted to meet him!

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BrerJason says:

 

Offer it up ;) Sorry, couldn’t resist. Thankfully I only had to cancel a 9hr drive and a hotel… but I would recommend going ahead with your pilgrimage. I made a trip there in October, and was very pleased. The displays at the “museum” were really nice, and the renovation of the Cathedral was extremely well done. They have some great relics there as well. The volunteers at both places were also extremely helpful and nice.

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Charles E Flynn says:

 

CNA has an update, concerning allegations made in a lawsuit initially filed in 2007.

From Archbishop Sheen was accused of covering up clerical sexual abuse:

The lawsuit was initially filed federally, and dismissed, and the lawyer who filed it was sanctioned by the court, which suggested that the suit was seeking publicity and was “littered with wholly irrelevant, inflammatory, and embarrassing facts concerning defendants and non-defendants alike that have no bearing on the actions brought.”

The suit was subsequently filed in state court and then dismissed.

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The Cobbler says:

 

It will all come out. It’s almost hilarious people forget that. If it doesn’t come out now, it will come out at the final judgement in front of everyone who ever lived. Better to get it over with sooner than later, if you ask me.

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albinus1 says:

 

““In our current climate, it is important for the faithful to know that there has never been, nor is there now, any allegation against Sheen involving the abuse of a minor,” continues the statement. “At no time has his life of virtue ever been called into question.”

Good grief. This is like an attorney saying, “My client has never beat his wife.” I’m unaware that there were ever any allegations of impropriety against Ven. Bishop Sheen. By going out of their way to deny something that hasn’t been an issue, they have raised the possibility in people’s minds when it wasn’t there before. Very slimy and underhanded.

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Worth noting here is that many people were initially (and justifiably) concerned that the date was not announced far enough in advance, not allowing sufficient preparation for what should have been a big event, and of course given that we just had our first snow of the season here in New York, the wisdom of having a beatification in the dead of winter does seem questionable. Given that, if they had simply moved it to the summer, it wouldn’t have smelled as bad. I am even more convinced of Venerable Sheen’s place in heaven now, since it seems that the demons won’t even let him alone after his death. If this keeps up, the faithful will eventually have to declare him a saint by acclamation.

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oledocfarmer says:

 

You can’t make this shizzle up!

Leaving aside for a moment the sketchy backgrounds of at least a plurality of our “mitered heads”….I do not recall a single note of hesitation prior to the “canonization” of the hapless Hamlet, Paul VI.

Pope Montini, methinks, is an untold story for the ages. That strange “promotion” to Milan, featuring a blubbering Giovanni Battista waiting at the Termini for the one-way midnight train outta Dodge. Oh the secrets there….a goodly number of which I imagine a certain Aldo Moro took to the grave.

You know ole Spellman had the reputation of the classic hardliner, but with all the more recent revelations, I bet he was in on the infiltration game all along. His full-throated opposition to the “reform” strangely and suddenly melted like
wet snow in the warm 60s sun….almost as if on cue. It is well documented that he and Eleanor Roosevelt made an uneasy peace through mutually assured destruction: he wouldn’t expose her kinda-a-lil-butch women friends if she didn’t reveal his Broadway chorus chums.

Folks, God is in His Heaven, and Christ remains in and with His Church as She suffers Her Passion. But the rot is so long-established and thoroughly entrenched that it will probably take Divine intervention to heal Her. If we synthesize all the disparate threads, I’d guess that intervention is coming sooner rather than later…maybe quite soon.

Could the Church ever have survived the last 100 years if She were not of Divine origin? To ask the question is to answer it.

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  • moosix1974 says:

    The fact that there has been so much resistance and so many obstacles to his beatification is a sure sign to me that the principalities and dominions are against this. I think he will be one extremely powerful intercessor and many conversions and healings will come through Fulton Sheen and Satan knows this. He WILL be beatified and he WILL be canonized. In God’s time is will come to pass. But this is a trial for the faithful and we must ramp up the prayers and fasting. Ven. Fulton Sheen will do far more in Heaven than here on earth and that’s saying a lot!

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  • mo7 says:

     

    We think these times are sooo modern, but lately stories like this sound like lives of the medieval / renaissance saints, full of good guys and bad guys and all kinds of intrigue like the bishops that oppose one another on a chess board.

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Own comment: 

The postponement of the beatification of Archisbip Fulton J. Sheen is indeed very strange. It turns out there have been many shenanigans behind the scences and the fingers are firmly pointed at Bergoglians.

Still, the most original comment belongs to Spade for the comment on cheesehead Dolan :

That’s rather uncharitable of the press release. Dolan may be overweight but it isn’t kind to refer to him as “a few members”.