Fraud: Facial Recognition Technology With 2,400 Picture Comparisons Shows Sister Lucy I (Pre-1958) and Sister Lucy II (Post-1958) are Definitely NOT the Same Person.

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Sunday, October 21, 2018 - 23:45
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This news is of a monumental historic event. This will go far beyond just dealing with the Fatima apparitions, but indeed it will explain what has happened to the Church in general. Others who had more resources and more established so-called apostolates did nothing. And you, Mr. Chojnowski, have made history by starting this great initiative of truth. God bless you.

 

  • I wouldn't like to get ahead of myself on this, especially so remembering that Fatima is an approved apparition. Perhaps the answer is as simple as teeth reconstruction and eating better? In the end, Christ's guarantee regards the Truth of doctrine taught by the Church and for me, that is therefore, the best focus when the only other alternative is speculation. (Prayer being required in all cases!)

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Amen. It is as many have suspected. Skulduggery and deception. Lets see how the gatekeepers try to handle this. The dragnet has been unleashed and it will sweep up virtually all higher ups in this criminal fraud of the Vat 2 fake "catholic" church. Thanks be to God!

 

  • Here's how they'll "handle it". They'll funnel some money to a shill somewhere to launch "his own independent investigation" which will use the same tech to conclusively state "it's the same woman 100%. Spin, obfuscate, spin, spin, spin, repeat.

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Scoffers have often criticized Fatima using these question, "So, what is meant by the 'errors of Russia,' anyway? Did the lady of the visions ever explain what she was referring to?" Now we have a new prime example of how Communist tactics of subterfuge and covert operations to publish lies as if they're pravda --- uuh, I mean, the truth. Hopefully the Fatima Center (Canada flavor) will come around to realizing they've taken the wrong turn. They've got their work cut out for them. As it stands, the Servants of Jesus and Mary (Buffalo) are in a much better position.

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  • "So, what is meant by the 'errors of Russia"

    1. The non-doctrinal religious movement among the Orthodox putting the creed aside for active spirituality only.

    Which creates the inability to know God an His personality and to discern spirits.

    2. The Patriarch of the Orthodox Church being appointed by the Tzar.

    An inversion of the Divine Order making the soul of civilization subject to the body of civilization.

    3. The belief in evolution.

    4. Abortion being approved by the civil authority.

    Both of which put God and family to death.

    5. The use of controlled opposition.

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The teeth give it away, close but not close enough.

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But how do you explain the fact family members visited her and did not notice the substitution?

 

  • They did visit the real Lucy. Everybody else got the fake one. That is my hypothesis.

  • If you read the interview of Mother Celine of the Coimbre convent shortly after the death of the last Sr Lucia she stated the nuns in the convent have all been Opus Dei Cooporators for decades.Right after the Sr Lucia of Tuy was ordered to put the Third Secret to paper, Escriva mad a visit and in his boook he claimed Lucia told him to open an Opus Dei house in Coimbre which would be the first one outside of Spain. He also said she took care of all the arrangements including Visas.
    A read of Carmen del Tapia's biography , escriva's longtime secretary, tells a slightly different story after he came back to Spain and what he told the OD women about his visit to see Lucia.

  • If the Consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart truly will conquer satan and his forces and give us Heaven's promised period of peace, wouldn't the enemy (infiltrated in the Vatican and everywhere else) do ANYTHING including assassinations and worse to maintain their demonic hold on the world? I'm sure family members were threatened and even killed over this. Why do you think the globalists think it's so important to blame "Russia Russia Russia" for everything? They want a nuclear war with Russia. My thought is that the luciferians want Russia destroyed before it is consecrated.They believe Sister Lucy's prophesies more that we do.

  • Carmelites are usually behind a grill even during visits and I have heard Sr Lucy was not able to be seen when visited, but only heard. Someone else may be able to confirm this.

  • Now, now, like your namesake, you're letting reason and facts get in the way of a good old superstition and a wild conspiracy theory.

    Don't hold your breath waiting for a response, although, if there is one, it's sure to be absurdly (and I do mean absurdly) entertaining.

  • Yes but the supposed imposter was displayed to the world - so everyone could see just what she looked like. Her relatives would be able to see that just as much as anyone else. My point is there does need to be a reasonable explanation for this not hypothesising that other relatives were murdered etc when you can't identify any such person. It is hard to keep these things shut up.

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In the Carmel surely the other nuns must have noticed the imposter.They must have been
ordered to be silent by the bishop or even by Rome.

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Now we can dismiss all reported communications from the post-1958 Sister Lucy as fraudulent. This explains why she never said boo about the failure to release the Third Secret by 1960. Even her statements that seemed to be consistent with the overall Fatima message were probably issued to promote her credibility and to mollify devotees of Our Lady of Fatima

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So? She (they?) is/are dead. It doesn't matter anymore. The Vatican and its handlers have long ago turned Fatima into nothing but a pious devotion. Besides anyone worth a penny sees the third secret at work anytime he walks into a diocesan Catholic church, hears a sermon there or listens to the latest pronouncement from PF. Psss. This is the third secret: The dogma of faith no longer exists in the Church. Point: Death penalty is now immoral. Now is the time for the flock to defend itself from the wolf.

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  • Apostasy is half the 3rd Secret. The other half is a natural disaster or devastating war.

    Nb: Fatima was the youngest daughter of Muhammed. IMHO, any attempt at understanding the 3rd Secret must include the Moslems.

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  • Now..this:
    A great chastisement will fall on the entire human race; not today as yet, not tomorrow, but in the second half of the twentieth century.
    No longer does order reign anywhere and Satan will reign over the highest places directing the course of events. He (Satan) really will succeed in infiltrating to the top of the Church. Also for the Church a time of Her greatest trials will come. Cardinals will oppose Cardinals; Bishops will oppose Bishops and Satan will march amid their ranks, and in Rome there will be changes. What is rotten will fall, and what will fall will never rise again. The Church will be darkened and the world deranged by terror.
    A great war will break out within the second half of the Twentieth Century, fire and smoke will fall from Heaven, the water of the oceans will become vapors and the foam will rise up flooding and sinking everything, millions and millions of people will die by the hour and the survivors will envy the dead.
    Death will reign everywhere for the errors committed by the foolish and by the partisans of Satan, who, then and only then, will reign over the world. At last, those who will survive all of these events will once more proclaim God and His Glory and serve Him like before, when the world was not as corrupted.

  • Penance! Reparation!

  • Our Lady would never say "the survivors woujld envy the dead". That is a false apparition from the Novus Ordo and in front of the Novus Ordo empty tabernacle during a Novus Ordo "Eucharistic prayer" from Vatican II Bishop. Like many false apparitions and Novus Ordo carry'ons it is promoted by Bishop Williamson to good folk, perhaps good folk like you. Don't fall for it. It might sound real but the Novus Ordo Church is not the Catholic Church and if they approve an apparition is holds no more water than their approval of the New Mass and various heresies. Stay with Fatima, La Salette, Rue de Bac and all pre-Vatican II approved apparitions and stay away from Bishop Williamson the deceiver and ?Rosicrucian poetry-teller.

  • That's not the secret of Akita, that's the 3rd secret of Fatima as verified by the late Fr. Malachi Martin and JPII at Fulda and yes, it sounds very much like the (fully approved by a courageous bishop who was being influenced NOT to approve) Akita message. When you put yourself in the position of arbiter of what a local bishop has approved or not approved you're similar to the loons that believe in Medjugorje even though three local bishops have clearly given their ruling. Also, when the form, matter, intention and a validly ordained priest are there the novus ordo is valid, never licit, but valid or do you know more than the late Fr. Hesse? Careful with your "empty tabernacle" sede hubris, there have been eucharistic miracles even from novus ordo consecrations including one in Salt Lake City a few years back and it's not being used or pushed for any Novus Ordo agenda, in fact you don't even hear much about it.

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I agree with others.

This information if it is as thorough as we believe should also be shared inevitably with the secular press.

We know the establishment Catholic press will not touch this.

We've gone from two Sr. Lucias to two Popes, and the alleged 2000 vision of the children seeing a bishop in white as though looking in a mirror with the impression of the Holy Father.

I oftentimes wonder if the life of Sr. Lucia, her silencing and her removal from the public, and attributions made about her are a foreshadowing type for our time with regards to Benedict.

This will certainly shed the Vatican in a whole new light, and even that of John Paul II and what knowledge he might've had with regards to this whole affair.

If they could cover up sex abuse like they have... then it's not so far fetched that they would've began practising much earlier with Fatima.

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  1. One of the things that lost some respect for Fr. Gruner for me was the video he did with John Vennari some years ago where they discussed the possibility of an imposter Sr. Lucia and they dismissed the idea entirely. This to me seemed dishonest because it seemed to me that they didn't want the Fatima Center to seem "too kooky" by endorsing such an "outlandish" theory. The pictures are and have been painfully obvious to anyone that has eyes to see.

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  2. Why did Fr. Gruner push the line of the conventional official U.S. government narrative regarding 9-11 which was bogus as a 3 dollar bill? That narrative was what got us into all the bogus wars with their untold death and destruction for Israel in the Middle East..

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Sister Lucy died in 2005 at the age of 97, the picture on the right was taken in 1962. Time to look at picture from when she was in her 90s. Also people sometimes need false teeth due to medical reasons and it looks like Sr Lucy was a candidate based on the 1st picture. The lighting in the 1st picture has an effect on the overall picture.T his conspiracy theory does nothing but lead people away from the main message of Fatima..Draw your own conclusions

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I actually remember reading that Lucia dos Santos had a Dentist who repaired her teeth for nothing BUT that does not explain the receding chin she had in her youth vs the very prominent chin of the elderly Lucia. Receding chins tend to appear even more receded into the neck with age. I know because I spent time with plastic surgeons doing surgery in the O.R. and recall them speaking on the subject.

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What year was the false Lucy introduced to the public??

 

 

 

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One of the many mottos I live by is that there is no conspiracy theory that I shall not entertain, and I generally do not dismiss conspiracy theories outright iven that the authorities lie all the time  and we should always expect official narratives to be pushing falsehoods.

The fake Sister Lucia theory stretches my motto to breaking point. While I do not think well of Vatican authorities at all, it is difficult to see what would be gained by having a fake Siter Lucia that could not much more easily be accomplished by forcing a real Sister Lucia into silence or producing fake letters alledgedly from her.

She was not exactly a public or even semi-public figure so it's hard to see why anybody would go to all that trouble.

At this moment, I remain somewhat open to the possibility but I am a huge doubter, and unless someone proposes a profit motive which is proportional to the risk taken in perpetrating the faulthood this is one conspiracy theory I shall have to dismiss.