Flynn Just the Start—Trump Can Hit Back At the Ruling Class By Pardoning Stockman, Snowden, and Assange

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Sunday, December 27, 2020 - 20:30
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Trump has no deep fear of being “driven out of power”. Therefore, there is no real urgency – but I do note the increasing calls for pardoning Snowden and Assange.

...It is difficult to understand where Trump stands on the politics of such moves. They are small pieces on the chessboard. Pawns at best. And he has powerful Knights and castles to defend or attack.

Politics is a cold and pragmatic practice.

Neither Assange, nor Snowden make much difference in the calculations of power.

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anon[373] • Disclaimer says:

It’s not time to tweet, it’s time to act.

This has been true for 4 years. Today, Trump is deservedly synonymous with twit.

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Those charged with the “crime” of exposing Washington’s — Assange, Snowden, and Manning, too — should receive a full pardon.

I hope I’m wrong, but:

1. None of the three will be pardoned. After all, they weren’t part of his administration or otherwise supporters of of the unprincipled Mr. Trump.

2. This latest episode of cowardly selfishness will go ignored by his duped enthusiasts or, if that’s not practicable, rationalized. (“Those treacherous Jews he naively trusted hid the pardoning stationery!”)

3. If Mr. Biden takes office, he won’t do the right thing, either. (Cf., President Harding and Eugene Debs.)

That nearly 150,000,000 Americans just cast a vote for Red + Blue in the latest Most Important Election Ever is discouraging. If you’re among them, just how awful would the choices have to become for you to stop endorsing your rulers? 

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“It is difficult to understand where Trump stands on the politics of such moves. They are small pieces on the chessboard. Pawns at best. And he has powerful Knights and castles to defend or attack.”

WTF are you talking about? This is Trump, not Montaigne. Trump will do what Bibi tells him to do.

I assume Flynn has something on Trump or Bibi. As for the others, they’re in prison because they don’t. End of story.

Why do you guys try to think about Trump as if he were Plato or Cicero? He’s a sleazy real estate con man from Queens. 

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Sadly, Trump won’t pardon Snowden or Assange. I think most Trumpsters would welcome seeing Assange pardoned since he helped defeat Clinton in 2016. But, Trump is a political actor–a puppet. The whole contested election is unfolding like a written script to maximize drama and emotions–like a WWF match. You can almost imagine the reaction of the media when the “bad guy” wins.

If Trump wants to add some real drama, he would pardon Schaeffer Cox. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSGzt5zDW0s

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John Hagan says: • Website

Look, what is wrong with a little bit of corruption. The folk of the USA like and respect a family that takes a few bribes for some favours here and there. The whole US society is built on this type of operation. What is wrong with that? It has led the US to become one of the world’s greatest societies – and it is just human nature anyway. Show me a Christian in politics in the US who does not want to take a little from the church plate.
The Bidens and Trumps are just a typical families like many others who enjoy showing others that a little corruption does no harm at all. So much so that American citizens admire those like Joe and Donald who help themselves to a few favours for money (some call them bribes but I would not go that far) that they will elect one or other to the highest office in the land.
This is the way business is done in the US. So what if there are a few poor casualties with no food and no home. They are obviously too stupid to avail themselves of the many opportunities. Why go to school in the US if not to learn how to look after number one? Watch the short video dealing with the Biden family …

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Trump likely hasn’t been told himself, but every major government knows that Julian Assange and Edward Snowden are both CIA frauds, evidence is overwhelming

These scammers, both openly anti-9-11-truth, served as ‘rat traps’ to identify and destroy real dissidents lured into contacting Assange or Greenwald etc … several people who did contact them, are dead or in jail … we don’t know how many real whistle-blowers they helped silence and murder … they also de-legitimise any real dissidents who don’t have corporate media touting them

– Zbig Brzezinski on 29 Nov 2010, USA PBS TV News Hour, admitted Assange was intel
– Bibi Netanyahu blurted out to Israeli media long ago, that Assange was an Israeli asset, Julian hiding any major anti-Israel ‘leaks’

Julian ‘never really lived in the London Ecuador Embassy’ Assange, pre-staged faker ‘Edward Snowden’ – first allegedly ‘leaking’ to Dick Cheney’s biographer (!), then pumped by ‘brave Jewish journalist’ and ex-seller-of-gay-pornography Glenn Greenwald, working in turn for 3 billionaire families (Gates, Rothschild, Omidyar)

– Good CIA boys Assange & Snowden both suppress files on USA Virginia federal judge bribery & extortion corruption which helped block other extraditions, even tho key to their ‘defence’
– Both pumped by CIA media, NY Times, Guardian, who ignore real dissidents
– Assange shared lawyer with Rothschilds, Rothschild sister-in-law posted Assange bail
– Assange helped Rothschilds destroy rival bank Julius Baer in Switzerland with his ‘leaking’, Snowden stuff was nothing substantially new, NSA-CIA spying was well known previous decade
– 3 people trusting Assange dead – Peter W Smith, Seth Rich, John Jones – others jailed
– Assange lawyer John Jones of Doughty Chambers, thrown under a train & killed in the UK, apparently about to expose Assange was CIA-Mossad fraud, never really ‘living’ at the Ecuador embassy
– Putin openly hints he knows Snowden is fake, he plays along under long-running CIA-Russia deals (Russia supports 9-11 story, US keeps quiet about Chechnya crimes / false flagging)
Link above for more 

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Assange and Snowden are part of the show anyway. 

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In the USA the people are sovereign .to prove that fact they have retained their God given rights to bear arms to defend against evil at home and abroad and free speech

In the event that the people are denied their rights for their chosen one President Trump

and the supreme court fails to redress that injustice , then the people may re invoke the 1776 I N GOD WE TRUST revolution

It is the people themselves that determine the fundamentals

not pedocrat enabling baby killing CoNNstitutanal liers 

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Charon says:

@Roacheforque

Neither Assange, nor Snowden make much difference in the calculations of power.

This is of course true, but pardoning them would enrage all the right people. I’m holding out hope that perhaps this angle will work on ex-orange man.

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Gen Flynn, never should have been prosecuted. As I understand it, Gen Flynn is still pursuing removing the perjury conviction.

Mr. Assange, did not commit a crime and isn’t even subject to US law based on his conduct and conditions as a foreign journalist living outside of the US as a non-citizen.

The case against Mr Snowden is a little different, even as a whistle blower I question some of his choices.

In the cases of Congressman Stockman, Gen. Flynn, and Mr. Assange, the term you want is malicious prosecution. X didn’t do X or did x against the desires of aims of said government and though said conduct was not illegal, a case is pursued for the sake of vengeance.

Like charging the current executive and his campaign aides of Colluding with the Russians. because they won an election. Notice, all of the actual convictions had nothing to do with colluding with the Russians nor the current executive.

The practice of malicious prosecution is not new. It’s typical. In the case of Watergate, there’s no evidence that the president of the US did anything , except, perhaps, attempt to defend members of his staff, whose activities were under their own design. Watergate provides a very good example of the tactic as does the Russian, Ukranian impeachment attempts. Make broad sweeping allegations, load up on charges, scurrilously slander the name of the person charged, with non-relevant information, usually attacks on character, personality, affiliation, etc. The attack is not about the conduct, but the person – but the intent is revenge — malicious prosecution.

And judges who entertain these types of prosecutions are usually fairly weak because the actual intent of the charges become fairly clear. An while some will be uncomfortable with the reference, police departments are notorious for making these types of cases to obfuscate their culpability in illegal conduct. Congressman Stockman finds evidence of illegal conduct by the government, expressly the admin., the executive (nothing at all like Watergate in which nothing involved the executive directly) and in response the government launches a case against the finder of facts against them. The previous admin prosecutions against “whistle blowers” all represent malicious intent. The motives: revenge and covering up their own misconduct. And democrats are more astute in the practice than republicans (my opinion – for relativists making tangential links is par for the course). And unless one has a healthy suspicion of government behavior (as every conservative should) it’s easy to be mislead by government accusations.

I guess whether one should except a “pardon” is a deeply personal call. A pardon is not quite the same thing as innocence, nor does it require the system admit it error or culpability — without it, I would have to reject it on it face. One of the unfortunate takeaways fro all of these malicious prosecutions is that so many people deserve or warrant the pardon so as to render the pardon process, a mere “rubber stamp” as opposed to correcting an injustice, righting a wrong or acknowledging someone’s change/self reformation.

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I have always thought that Mr “Scooter” Libby prosecution and conviction was malicious or just short of it and wrong. 

 

 

 

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There are 2 comments worthy of personal comment. One is by who Peter D. Bredon writes:

“It is difficult to understand where Trump stands on the politics of such moves. They are small pieces on the chessboard. Pawns at best. And he has powerful Knights and castles to defend or attack.”

WTF are you talking about? This is Trump, not Montaigne. Trump will do what Bibi tells him to do.

I assume Flynn has something on Trump or Bibi. As for the others, they’re in prison because they don’t. End of story.

 

Why do you guys try to think about Trump as if he were Plato or Cicero? He’s a sleazy real estate con man from Queens. 

I agree mainly with that, save for the part whereby Flynn has something on Netanyahu, which is unlikely to be the case.

The other is by Charon  and I agree with it completely:

Neither Assange, nor Snowden make much difference in the calculations of power.

 

This is of course true, but pardoning them would enrage all the right people. I’m holding out hope that perhaps this angle will work on ex-orange man.

It is clear that personal vendettas are very important to Trump, and it is in these that we must place our hopes whenever Trump is involved. That is why with him it is more important that he has the right enemies than that he has the right allies.