COVID-19 INSPIRED REFORM OF THE REFORM NOBLE SIMPLICITY

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Anonymous,  TJM,  John Nolan       

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Wednesday, June 24, 2020 - 20:30
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Anonymous said...

WHERE is that beautiful church in the photo?

 

June 13, 2020 at 3:53 PM... 

 

Anonymous said...

No pun intended, but "no sign of peace" here in Atlanta. Friday night, police responded to a disturbance call at a Wendys near the old Turner Field (where the Braves used to play), finding someone less than sober in a car blocking the drive-thru. The culprit unwisely resisted arrest and took an officer's stun gun and ran away. The officer shot the suspect, who died. So guess what? Some ner to dos decided to set fire to the Wendys and block the busy Interstate 75-85 thru town. The Wendys burned down as the fire department could not get thru til the police came to move the protesters. Eventually the riot police came and they used tear gas---long overdue.

There just seems to be a plague of lawlessness in Democratic cities, of course one of which is Atlanta. If Trump gets 20 percent here this November, it would be a miracle. No one was arrested for looting here two weeks ago (though there were some arrests for curfew violations). Police get tired of patrolling areas where there seems to be no respect for the law. Who can blame them for not wanting to go into the bad areas? I suspect a lot of them will venture to other cities.

More riots like this may help Trump this fall, as they helped Nixon win in 1968 after some wild times under Lyndon Johnson.

The protesters say they are tired of getting killed by the police. But it seems like in most of these situations, the police are not dealing with choir boys, not innocent as the snow. And far more blacks die at the hand of Planned Parenthood "clinics." Why no protests there?

June 13, 2020 at 11:41 PM 

 

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 TJM said...

My young pastor, who was well on his way to restoring dignity to the Mass prior to Covid, is doing more to add to the dignity and solemnity of the Mass, due to Covid.

I went to last night's Anticipatory Mass for Corpus Christi and note the following:

1) The cantor chanted the Propers and the Missa Orbis Factor (Greek Kyrie and Latin for the rest)

2) We recited the Confiteor

3) No offertory procession or collection

4) Roman Canon (by the way, we were told the Church was sexist prior to the Council, so why were women mentioned in the Canon? Just another liberal lie I guess). The bells were rung at the appropriate times.

5) No Kiss of Peace

5) No eucharistic ministers or common chalice and I was able to receive on the tongue.

All in all, this was probably the most dignified, mainly vernacular Mass, I have attended in my life. I hope many of the accommodations to the Mass in light of Covid remain permanent.

 

June 14, 2020 at 9:45 AM 

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John Nolan said...

'Hopefully here to stay!'

It depends on whether the parish priest has the courage of his convictions. All these optional extras are at the discretion of local bishops; they may allow them or disallow them, but they cannot mandate them. This includes CITH, EMHC, and female servers. In the Ordinary Form an individual priest may not refuse Communion to those who opt to receive in the hand, providing his ordinary allows it, but when altar girls were permitted it was made quite clear that no priest was obliged to accept them.

The use of the vernacular might be seen to come into this category, but although every priest has the right to celebrate either partly or wholly in Latin, it would be not unreasonable for a bishop to insist that Mass in the vernacular be available to the not inconsiderable number who prefer it.

A youngish Australian priest seconded to a parish in the north of England told me that traditionally-minded priests were under a lot of pressure from fellow-priests at deanery level to conform to 'progressive' norms. However, this was in 2005, a week before the death of John Paul II. A lot has happened since then.

 

June 16, 2020 at 5:51 AM 

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 TJM said...

 

 John Nolan,

Our bishop is EF friendly and actually mandated the bells be rung at the consecration. He is relatively young, so hopefully he will be around for a long time, long enough to allow our younger priests the latitude to “re-enchant” the Mass so the Faithful gain an appreciation for more traditional liturgies

 

 

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It might just be possible to use the Covid-19 fiasco to sacralise instead of desacralise, as Fr. McDonald shows.

It will have to be done by individual priests though as it seems that the bishops - virtually unanimously - have checked out.