The Council’s unique historical contribution

Submitted by LocutusOP on Sat, 11/02/2019 - 23:56
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my2cents,Aqua ,  mothermostforgiving, Akita,  ConcernedCommenter, Evangeline, A Simple Beggar , randyvengel , my2cents           

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Saturday, November 2, 2019 - 23:45
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The Council’s unique historical contribution

 

my2cents October 17, 2019

 

Thank you, Louie. I look forward to your full comments on this book.

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  • Aqua October 17, 2019

    “The universal call to holiness of Lumen Gentium is the go-to citation of the new-conservative types”.

    It shows why definitions are so important.

    Those who support Conciliar Modernist Catholicism view holiness in a one way. Roman Catholics view holiness in another.

    CMCs view the pagan idol worshipping ceremony with the Pope and senior Cardinals in attendance, the Wiccan presiders prostrating themselves in adoration of stone and wood and the demons behind them, as profoundly holy. They have abandoned God, and by definition now worship God’s enemy. In their fervor, they declare this “holy”.

    It shows why we must insist in every phrase, word, jot and tittle of Tradition and not let even one punctuation mark of it go to the reprobates. Deviate by a single degree and you miss the mark by a mile. The narrow gate and the small way was not meant to be easy.

    Worship and adore Triune God first. Worship and adore no thing and no one else other than Triune God. Heart, mind, body, soul, strength – give them to God from whom they come and are due back. Everything else follows from that.

     

 

  • mothermostforgiving October 17, 2019

    “Deviate by a single degree and you miss the mark by a mile. The narrow gate and the small way was not meant to be easy.”
    That’s Catholicism talking.

 

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AkitaOctober 17, 2019

  • They are so blind. Rather than rolling out a book and breathlessly exclaiming how brave and hope-instilling Bishop Schneider is, they should be calling an imperfect council, deposing Bergoglio and his beastiality-boosting bunch (the horror of the current pagan desecration of the Vatican) and consigning the entire Faith-destroying Vatican II to the dustbin of history. Never let up Louie. Your gaze is focused, your heart is pure, your intellect sharp and we thank you. You are a voice crying in the wilderness.

 

  • Aqua October 17, 2019

    That exact thought has been rolling around in my head, undefined, until you said it. It’s just a book! It means precisely nothing. The nice Prelates and celebrity Catholics have their conference. Shake hands all around among the like-minded. We debate the book’s strengths and weaknesses. The heretic apostates continue with their wrecking ball in the Holy of Holies. Nothing has changed.

    Formal declarations and Imperfect Councils – that is the role reserved for Bishops and Cardinals. Wild eyed holy man of God kicking over idols and bull rushing Shamans out of God’s Temple and away from His holy presence – that is the role of every Catholic.

    “Unite The Clans” behind the one, true Pope ; antipope declared; error deposed; Truth elevated; the Faithful united behind the restoration.

    This other thing they’re doing is an embarrassing waste of moral capital. Yippee! I’ll wait for the Kindle version.

     
    • ConcernedCommenter October 19, 2019

      Aqua: I am aware that most commenters and even Louie seem to have chosen Sede-ism after long research, prayer, and soul searching. My intent in this comment is not to stir the pot (though I have made past comments with the specific intent to do that); rather my intent is to elicit non-emotive (if that is possible) replies to these thoughts which seem to me reasonable yet perhaps unsatisfactory. They concern the matter of BiP and why it will likely remain unsettled at this present time and perhaps for my lifetime and maybe even my children’s lifetimes:
      Faith. Jesus asks us as He asked His apostles, “Who do you say I am? Who do you say My Church is? Who do you say My Vicar on Earth is? Will you choose Sede-ism and make your own Pope? Do you think that I don’t keep My promises?”

      Where Peter is, there is My Church. Choose Peter and don’t turn back.

      Perhaps this is Christ’s test for each of us individually in this time–for BiP to remain unsettled by an authoritative statement from the sure authority of the Church. Lack of authoritative statement does not make BiP less true BUT it does test one’s individual Faith. Does it not?

       
      • Akita October 19, 2019

        I have not chosen sedevacantism. I attend diocesan Latin Mass when SSPX Mass is not available. However, I do recognize a skunk has been planted on the Throne. I pray our panty-waist churchmen act. I’ve prayed this for years now.

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  • Evangeline October 18, 2019

    We are in the horrible position of having to sort out who is with us and who is not.
    That’s frankly what we are doing, and not without reason. We need to know where we stand and who stands with us. It became clear about 4 years ago there would be no fence sitters left sitting. Each must choose, public and private.
    It is with dismay I note Cardinal Sarah’s words of late, that anyone who criticizes the pope has put himself outside the church. He has apparently forgotten about St. Paul himself who criticized Peter. If St. Paul is outside the church excuse me, I’m leaving now to go stand with him. Many saints also criticized the pope, and rightly. They would spin in their graves if they knew what we are living.
    I look forward to your review Louie, I’m torn on this one. I hope you finish it this week.

     

 

  • A Simple Beggar October 18, 2019

    Hello Evangeline,

    A precarious position indeed it is. Unfortunately, the criticism of St. Peter by St. Paul is another thing twisted and used by the devil to trick the faithful and turn them into heretics. St. Paul was not rebuked for heresy; it was not a matter of Faith.

     
    • A Simple Beggar October 18, 2019

      Long week. “St. Paul was not…” should read “St. Peter was not…”

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  • randyvengel October 19, 2019

    To understand the book Christus Vincit, it is only necessary to understand that
    Diane Montagna is one of Opus Dei’s popular journalistic clones stationed in Rome. She is originally from Pittsburgh and was recruited by Opus Dei as a young girl. This is just another way of saying, the text of the book has been filtered through Opus Dei whose “unique” identity we know is “the universal call to holiness.”
    Our Lady of Fatima, pray for us.
    Randy Engel, Contributor, Aka Catholic , The Catholic Inquisitor.

     

 

  • my2cents October 20, 2019

    Thank you,Randy. It is pleasure to read an “on topic, brief and charitable comment” on Louie’s blog. It appears that Opus Dei is pulling a lot of strings behind the scenes in plain sight. God bless you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Own comment: 

As I have written many times before: Nobody is coming to save us; we are all on our own. That should be read, no Earthly prelate or ruller.

I would definitely not want to be harsh on Bishop Athanasius Schneider since he is the best of a bad bunch, and without doubt has a great affection for Holy Mother Church. The problem is that if one has not brought oneself to condemn Vatican II, or even worse, thinks that Vatican II brought anything good with it, then one will be part of the problem and not part of the solution. The person might even be a step towards the solution, and but ultimately if they do not attack the root cause and root lies behind the crisis, then the problem will only get worse, albeit perhaps at a slower pace.