Bugnini Really Was a Mason

Submitted by LocutusOP on Sat, 05/09/2020 - 22:54
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 William Emory ,   AMalek, Constantine  , Unknown  ,  Amateur Brain Surgeon , James Joseph , Amos , Anonymous, Tancred, Anonymous 

Date: 
Saturday, May 9, 2020 - 23:00
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Bugnini Really Was a Mason

 

 William Emory said...

The reader should take careful note of the final paragraph in the Rorate report. It offers a sensible caveat:

"Readers should take seriously the warning by Bishop Athanasius Schneider of Kazakhstan against taking too seriously the information in Infiltration. In his foreword to Infiltration, Schneider notes that, owing to a “lack of sufficient resource materials,” “some issues considered in this book…must remain as hypotheses” (x). Schneider’s warning is important to heed as many of the stories described by Marshall require much care, for what is taken as truth today could be disproved by historical documentation tomorrow."

 

May 6, 2020 at 5:44 PM 

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AMalek said...

Sorry, don’t trust Archbishop Schneider. He continues to defend and carry water for Vat. 2 heresies and this Pope. He pretends to be traditional on certain issues but by all appearances is controlled opposition.

 

May 6, 2020 at 9:55 PM 

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Constantine said...

No Freemason or enemy of the Church can do any harm, unless good Catholics start collaborating with them, and try to see them in a better light. This happened because Catholics collaborated with the victorious Allies during and after the War and established the post War World Order. The Catholics who collaborated with Communists, Masons and Secularists can find things in common in preventing another war, in fighting injustice they can agree upon and make use of the working relationships and bonds and Good Will to build upon that and ever improve a lasting friendship and peace. This was the error. We Catholics gullibly gave the enemies the rope to hang us.

 

May 7, 2020 at 7:00 AM 

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Unknown said...

Not we Catholics. But modernists, progresists, the Enemies of the Holy mother Church and the Catholics.
Ivan

 

May 7, 2020 at 7:33 AM 

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Unknown said...

And yes. Montini knew, as he knew that his great friend Allinski a freemason was. Nobody can tell me that he was just kind of naive person...
And yes. Novissimus ordo should and must be entirely abrogated. Once for ever.
Ivan

 

May 7, 2020 at 7:37 AM 

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Amateur Brain Surgeon said...

The Fathers of Vatican Two arrived for the council already emotionally and spiritually exhausted from the strictures of the Roman Rite. In truth they admired the liberals/protestants who could do what they wanted according to their own putative knowledge.

The fathers of vatican two wanted to be liberated and so they voted to be liberated from Jesus Christ and self themselves as slaves to the world. (and Satan)

In an era of revolution they felt the world was passing them by and they were anxious to join it and walk hand in hand into that blissful future where all anxiety is quelled and all passions are sated and where the world is forever at peace.

How many of the fathers of Vatican Two possessed the Faith once delivered?

Damn few, damn few

 

May 7, 2020 at 8:05 AM 

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James Joseph said...

There is two men I never hear Catholics discuss much. These are a pair on converts turned priests from England. Both men are Montgomery. Now Montgomery is a Jewish family intrinsic to the Glorious Revolution. Follow them and you might find something. Masonry is small potatoes and will lead to a dead end unless one realizes it ultimately Jewish.

 

May 7, 2020 at 11:27 AM 

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 Amos said...

Can't retire the New Mass as it was implemented and approved by a "saint." Many Catholics have too much spiritual trust and emotional attachment to canonized people. It's going to take a campaign against the new canonizations in order to remove that attachment so all we can proceed to repair all the damage caused by people like Paul VI and JPII.

 

May 7, 2020 at 12:10 PM 

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 Anonymous said...

The V2 church is masonic. This is news?

 

May 7, 2020 at 3:51 PM 

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Tancred said...

They don't call it Judeo-Freemasonry for nothing.

 

May 8, 2020 at 12:29 AM 

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 Anonymous said...

The news that Bugnini was a Freemason was already know in the Vatican and presented to the ailing Pius XII in the late 1950's, who sacked him. Liberals in the preparatory commissions fot the liturgy before Vatican II opened had him brough back by John XXIII. Conservative Cardinals knew about Bugnini being a mason, and reported it to the dying John XXIII during the preparatory sessions and beginnings of Vatican II. John XXIII sacked him again. The radicals found a willing Paul VI to accept Bugnini into the Curia again, only to sack him once and for all again in 1970 and exile him to Iran.
Either three Popes were naïve and stupid, which is hard to believe, or the liberal wing so devious that they could disguise an obvious heretic as a repentant and true Catholic to push their agenda for a third time with Paul VI. The first two Popes learned quickly and got rid of Bugnini.....Paul VI on the other hand was a liberal regarding the liturgy himself, and accepted everything Bugnini did, until proven that Bugnini was indeed a Mason. Paul VI made an example of him for all the other Masonic Cardinals, bishops and priests in the Vatican. UNfortunatly it was too little too late.

Damian M. Malliapalli

Anybody know what kind of new Bishop this Marco Tasca, OFM Conv. will be in Genoa, appointed today by Francis. Probably another radical....because I read he was in favor of allowing women superiors to attend the last Synod, which they never had before. He'll be 63. I know they wont get another great man like Siri....not with this "pope".

 

May 8, 2020 at 2:25 PM 

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 Anonymous said...

Why didn't somebody say Bugnini was a free mason when these Popes were healthy rather than waiting until rigor mortis was setting in? Pope Pius XII did a lot of strange stuff in the last 8 years of his reign including demolishing Holy Week. Many sources have accused Pope John XXIII of being a free mason. Whether he was or wasn't it is a fact that his reforms had long advocated been for by many men who were openly free masons. Paul VI? well he did wear the Ephod at the UN in 1965 so he was a really strange pontiff.

 

May 8, 2020 at 5:12 PM 

 

Own comment: 

It will surrpise nobody if there is actual evidence that Bugnini - the architect of the Novus Ordo Missae - was a freemason given that the Novus Ordo Missae ought to be proof enough.

Still, I am curious as to whether we can find any evidence that would hold up in court besides the Novus Ordo Missae.

I shall have to side with James Joseph on this:

There is two men I never hear Catholics discuss much. These are a pair on converts turned priests from England. Both men are Montgomery. Now Montgomery is a Jewish family intrinsic to the Glorious Revolution. Follow them and you might find something. Masonry is small potatoes and will lead to a dead end unless one realizes it ultimately Jewish.

I have never heard of the two men he mentions but I agree to the larger point that freemasonry is small potatoes compared to talmudism, which seems to be the master with the freemasons at best agents. So I have to agree with Tancred even though I have never heard anyone use the term:

 

They don't call it Judeo-Freemasonry for nothing.

It is a term which ought to be used much more often and the major criticism I would have with Taylor Marshall's book is that he does not address the surrender to Jewish ideologies on the part of many Novus Ordo actors. Without addressing these, the book seems largely to be a deflection.

Then an anonymous commenter sums it up well:

 

The V2 church is masonic. This is news?

Perhaps the most important comment is that left by Amos:

 

Can't retire the New Mass as it was implemented and approved by a "saint." Many Catholics have too much spiritual trust and emotional attachment to canonized people. It's going to take a campaign against the new canonizations in order to remove that attachment so all we can proceed to repair all the damage caused by people like Paul VI and JPII.

In other words, unless we start attacking the official deeds of NOChurch popes including and perhaps primarily their saints, then we are ultimately fighting a losing battle because the rot these people have brought into the Church will continue to fester long after anyone with living memory of them is gone if we recognise them as saints in the traditional sense of the word - someone worthy of emulation - as opposed to the NOChurch sense - someonew who is (probably) in Heaven, which I well grant may well be the case for these people.