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Bishop Schneider: Resurrecting a dead hermeneutic
Submitted by LocutusOP on Wed, 08/02/2017 - 23:36
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pearl87, hodcarrier , Caimbeul , maryiloveher , Rushintuit , GeorgeB , dowd , MS
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Wednesday, August 2, 2017 - 23:30
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hodcarrier July 27, 2017
Reminds me of a story. A father was getting extreme pressure from his two teen age children to allow them to got to the movie that ‘everyone else’ loves. He cooked them their favorite desert, brownies, and while taking them from the oven told them he had mixed some of the dog’s droppings in the brownie mix. If they then wanted to eat the brownies – they could go to THAT movie. Vat II has too much of ‘fido’s droppings’ in it!
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Caimbeul July 25, 2017
Good article. The whole of which should be read in its entirety.
I agree that the path that Bishop Schneider has laid out will only further guarantee that the Conciliar Crisis continues. There are indeed some traditionalists who agree with Bp. Schneider, unfortunately.
As an aside, what bothers me, too, is that Bp. Schneider seems to believe that he understands the mind of the late Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre. In this he cannot be more wrong.
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maryiloveher July 25, 2017
Bishop Tissier de Mallerais, SSPX:
“I will say, one day the Church should erase this Council. She will not speak of it anymore. She must forget it. The Church will be wise if she forgets this council.”
[…] Forget it, yes. As a blank – tabula rasa…”(2006 Interview with Mr. Heiner, The Remnant)
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maryiloveher July 25, 2017
Archbishop Lefebvre:
“We believe we can affirm, purely by internal and external criticism of Vatican II, i.e. by analyzing the texts and studying the Council’s ins and outs, that by turning its back on tradition and breaking with the Church of the past, it is a schismatic council.”
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maryiloveher July 25, 2017
Archbishop Lefebvre:
“All those who cooperate in the application of this overturning accept and adhere to this new “Conciliar Church”, as His Excellency Mgr. Benelli called it in the letter that he sent me in the name of the Holy Father last June 25, and they enter into the schism. The adoption of the liberal theses by a council could only have taken place in a pastoral council that was not infallible and cannot be explained except through a secret and meticulous preparation, that the historians will end up discovering to the great astonishment of the Catholics who confuse the eternal Roman Catholic Church with human Rome, susceptible of being invaded by enemies covered in scarlet.”
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Caimbeul July 25, 2017
Thank you, Mary I love her, for providing these timeless quotes from Archbishop Lefebvre. They clearly show that he did not think about the Council in the same way that Bishop Schneider does at all. But then Archbishop Lefebvre was present at the Council and saw what happened.
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Rushintuit July 25, 2017
Vatican II will be erased along with all the enemies of the Church (two thirds to three quarters of the global population). The handful of Bishops that remain will have no problem with Consecrating Russia. Who can doubt that the Material Chastisement of Heaven is imminent?
Our Lady promised to place devotees of her Immaculate Heart as flowers to adorn God’s Throne. This should be the focus of the ordinary Catholic. Focus on Eternal Rome and let God deal with human Rome. The state of individual souls cannot be known. To judge other changes nothing and puts your soul at risk of judgement.
The SSPX is fulfilling their apostolate of continuing to ordain Catholic Priests. The SSPX is currently sponsoring a world wide Rosary Crusade. Focus on that instead of placing yourself in an ever shrinking corner.
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Caimbeul July 25, 2017
Is it really only “dialogue” that’s the problem?
And there’s a growing number of trads who realize that it’s not a good idea to reconcile with Rome until Rome comes to its senses and accepts tradition. It isn’t a corner that is shrinking. -
GeorgeB July 27, 2017
Amen, Mr. Rush.
Those who attack the SSPX to bolster their own fragile egos are unwittingly trying (but failing, for God’s will SHALL be done) to “auto-destruct” Traditional Catholicism, just as the modernists successfully “auto-destroyed” the mainstream church.
The “corner” starts with SSPV and Sedevacantism. It ends with sitting alone in your room, feeling smug, and beLIEving yourself to be a little personal Pope – with not even a handful of followers, like poor deluded Dave Bawden – and then, a little later, the bowels of Hell from which there is no exit. This “purity test” is a filthy strategy borrowed from feminism and Leftism, and has no place in the virile mind of a Traditional Catholic man.
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maryiloveher July 25, 2017
Archbishop Lefebvre:
“This “Conciliar Church” is imbued with the principles of 1789. These are Masonic principles with respect to religion and religions in general and with respect to civil society. Its foundation was an imposture inspired by Hell for the destruction of the Catholic religion, of its Magisterium, of its priesthood, and of the Sacrifice of Our Lord.
This new Church can no longer sing the praises of Jesus Christ, universal King of nations, can no longer have the thoughts of Our Lord with respect to the world. That is why the whole spirit of the liturgy has been modified by the changing of a multitude of details, in texts and in gestures.”
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dowd July 26, 2017
Well said Louie. Vatican II was an unmitigated disaster plain and simple. “By their fruits you shall know them”. Since, evidently, Bishop Athanasius Schneider is unwilling to say this it would be better that he said nothing as he is now harming his own credibility.
Michael Dowd
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MS July 26, 2017
From http://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/fetzen-fliegen/item/3306-the-revolution-of-vatican-ii-was-misinterpreted
Consider Lefebvre’s own words: “From the very first days, the Council was besieged by the progressive forces. We experienced it, felt it…We had the impression that something abnormal was happening and this impression was rapidly confirmed; fifteen days after the opening session not one of the seventy-two schemas remained. All had been sent back, rejected, thrown into the waste-paper basket…The immense work that had been found accomplished was scrapped and the assembly found itself empty-handed, with nothing ready. What chairman of a board meeting, however small the company, would agree to carry on without an agenda and without documents? Yet that is how the Council commenced.”
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“All of this having been said, if, just for the sake of argument, we grant that Vatican II really did gift the Church with these “original and valuable contributions,”…
Sorry, but this is a bridge too far. It needs to be acknowledged that VII was a failed council, speaking as a Catholic. Those who find any value in it, have departed from the Faith, in direct proportion to their acceptance of its dogma. Speaking as a worldling and a relativist, it was a great success.